I bought a Grand Lizard as my first pin about two months ago, and as a family we have already racked up about 2,000 games. I will eventually finish reading through all of the posts here, but I do wonder about any super challenges you all have tried to achieve since the game isn't particularly deep. Someone suggested attempting to catch all three balls on one magnet during multiball.
Quoted from Mercyscene:I bought a Grand Lizard as my first pin about two months ago, and as a family we have already racked up about 2,000 games. I will eventually finish reading through all of the posts here, but I do wonder about any super challenges you all have tried to achieve since the game isn't particularly deep. Someone suggested attempting to catch all three balls on one magnet during multiball.
Biggest challenge is to focus on rolling the game.
Quoted from djreddog:Biggest challenge is to focus on rolling the game.
I've hit 7M on three balls and 9.4M with extra balls. From other comments, it sounds like this is achievable.
I have noticed on my machine that occasionally you can shoot from the left flipper through the spinner straight into the upper left loop. Anyone tried continuing this with shots down the right orbit, up the left ramp, straight down through the spinner and into the lock shot?!
I've shot a ball back to the plunger once or twice....
Quoted from Mercyscene:I've hit 7M on three balls and 9.4M with extra balls. From other comments, it sounds like this is achievable.
I have noticed on my machine that occasionally you can shoot from the left flipper through the spinner straight into the upper left loop. Anyone tried continuing this with shots down the right orbit, up the left ramp, straight down through the spinner and into the lock shot?!
I've shot a ball back to the plunger once or twice....
Ive done it once, made a "little loop" there for a few mins, my game have this bad habit on dropping the ball stright down the middle from the lizard tongue if it comes from the left ramp, but drops the ball on the left flipper if it comes from the right ramp., i guess its the plastic on the tongue thats bent out of shape.
Quoted from mof:Has anyone done some fine-tuned tweaking of settings to increase the difficulty of the game? I'd like to increase the difficulty, so that 1-2 mil is a real accomplishment.
Here are some things I'm considering:
1. remove the easy-backhand on the cave horseshoe -- tweak the upper flipper to have less range of motion.
2. install -- hard settings
3. get pitch to 6.5' -- right now I'm at 5' and the live catch is too easy from the spinner.
4. remove the center post? (Is that crazy?)
5. 2 max extra balls
6. Just 1 earned extra ball at 1,000,000.
Has anyone set up a really tough GL ?
-mof
So I toyed with the difficulty settings over the first few weeks, but for now it sits at factory for the timers at least. I would certainly consider changing the three bank to harder so that all completions are timed and set the mystery and speed 50 shots to as short as possible so that you must make the shot on the first try.
My pitch is already at 6.5 but occasionally I set 1/2 inch boards under the back legs. I think this is plenty for this game, but a friend of mine uses 2x4 blocks to change up his games.
I did remove the center post for a short time, but I decided that the post would probably give me at least one or two clutch saves if I intend to roll the score.
I play all or nothing on extra balls, usually nothing.
I have my replays set to 2M, 3M, and 4M, audit only.
I imagine that wax would reveal some wicked spin moves!
I also have a 6-year-old who likes playing, so I try not to leave it too punishing....
Added over 5 years ago:I would say a huge game changer is moving the plastic posts above the outlanes. I have my right post at the lowest position (easiest position) and the band there returns soooo many balls to the flippers.
Quoted from ufiti:Anyone else notice there is a playfield protector available for Grand Lizard now? Very tempting, but not sure I'm up for removing my mylar anytime soon. If anyone gets one of these I'd love to hear about it.
https://www.playfield-protectors.com/Home/Details/VU7Ii-7DVk67NeY-92Fnig?categoryid=22&category=Playfield%20Protectors&name=Grand%20Lizard%20%7C%201986
I bought my GL with a playfield protector so I don't know any differently. There is a decal over the upper playfield and then the protector throughout. I have not tried to wax it yet, but it plays just fine!
Anyone tried scoring less than 3,300 in a game?
Anyone tried collecting both A & B mystery awards on the same shot? This seems impossible even with multiball, but you would need to hit something like right inlane, A ramp bottom gate, left inlane, and B ramp all the way to the top, within about 5 seconds.
Anyone tried scoring the upper playfield Special with less than 200,000 points? 12 x 1,000 + 6 x 25,000 = 162,000....
I made another thread looking for info on a Grand Lizard I recently acquired. If anyone has anything beyond what is easily searched on IPDB or Google, your input is appreciated. Here is a link to my post: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/looking-for-historical-information-on-this-grand-lizard-#post-4822900
Quoted from djreddog:Another update. I put the DMM on the two TP's on the CPU and played several games. Watched the DMM the entire time and the voltage stayed at 5.0 or 4.99, 99% of the time. Once in a great while I would see it dip to 4.98.
I played 3-4 games on it. All great games by the way. First game was 3.5 million, no issues. Second game was 2.2 million no issues. Third game I got 2 extra balls on ball 1, and made it up to 5.4 million on ball 2 when the game died. I was not in Multiball or anything and the DMM never dipped below 4.9.
Thoughts?
Mine was doing the same thing. Turned out to be the big connector... the one that connects a big bundle of wires coming from the backbox to a big bundle of wires from under the playfield. Try cleaning up the pins on that & reseat. (Or replace.)
Quoted from jho159:I made another thread looking for info on a Grand Lizard I recently acquired. If anyone has anything beyond what is easily searched on IPDB or Google, your input is appreciated. Here is a link to my post: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/looking-for-historical-information-on-this-grand-lizard-#post-4822900
Cool definitely looks like a prototype.
Love the backglass...way better than production. Prefer production plastics and cab but I am getting my cab customized a tiny bit at the moment for my own taste.
Is that the one that was in a resturant/bar somewhere that another member had a pic of some time ago?
Quoted from jho159:Not that I am aware of. To the best of my knowledge, this game was never on location.
If you could get the plastics scanned, we'd all love you forever . I bet you could have them all scanned at once at a place like kinkos or any other large print shop. Something like 300 or 600 dpi would be great. Maybe when you go to shop it out since the plastics would be off anyway. Great find and great game.
Thanks,
RC
Anyone know if there are more with this cabinet? If I could find one of these to buy I would do my best to get plastics made.
Quoted from Luzur:Is that the one that was in a resturant/bar somewhere that another member had a pic of some time ago?
Nope, not the one I posted. That one didn't have the different cabinet/playfield art. Just the backglass and plastics. Wow that's cool!
Quoted from GoneFishinLvMsg:Red Dog? They still sell that cheap shit? I used to drink it when I was a poor E-4 in the Navy.
They still sell it. I’ve been drinking it since it’s debut in 95. Nowadays I drink it as a novelty a few times a year. If I’m drinking beer, it’s Stella or Amstel. But most of the time I’m sipping Blanton’s or Dalmore 12.
Quoted from djreddog:They still sell it. I’ve been drinking it since it’s debut in 95. Nowadays I drink it as a novelty a few times a year. If I’m drinking beer, it’s Stella or Amstel. But most of the time I’m sipping Blanton’s or Dalmore 12.
The Grand Lizard guys I know drink Einstok!
F5D4A516-C221-4486-BE86-9C5A2D10705E (resized).jpegimage (resized).jpgGrand Lizard was my first machine back in November 2015. Sold it after 2.5 years and have really missed it. Finally back in the club and the fiancé said this one isn’t ever leaving the collection.
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They might both be keepers!
Quoted from RCA1:They might both be keepers!
Oh they are! Last year my fiancé even made a request to have 2 games in the kitchen!
Well, i PM'd pinfautated about some update with my plastics, feels like its on full rotation but never getting off the airstrip LOL
Man, thats totally rad! if my sidearts had been trashed i would have done something similar, but "unfortunatly" they are just fine
Btw, did you add LEDs in the backbox? mine dont shine up like that at all.
I'm thinking about joining this club, I have a few questions.
I watched a TNT video and they say the game Humms and you cannot get rid of the humming sound, Is this true?
can you turn off the in game music?
Do the flashers make noise and click during attract mode?
Is it fun?
thanks, Mike
Quoted from mcuzz:I'm thinking about joining this club, I have a few questions.
I watched a TNT video and they say the game Humms and you cannot get rid of the humming sound, Is this true?
You can get rid of it, but it involves doing some cap soldering on the PSU board at a couple strategic places.
Quoted from mcuzz:you turn off the in game music?
yeah, but why? Its A-OK in my ears
Quoted from mcuzz:the flashers make noise and click during attract mode?
Ive never noticed it on my GL atleast?
Quoted from mcuzz:Is it fun?
LOL Duh, otherwise it wouldnt have a whole group dedicated to it
Mine hummed and did the swooshing noise as it lit the playfield. Pretty normal. I replaced all bulbs with LED and it went away.
Luzor nailed it. Mine hummed but I replaced the PSU and put in new speakers and the humming completely went away.
The game is fun. It’s my only 80’s pin. Upper PF’s are torn up on many of them but a decal is available.
I just picked a Grand Lizard, and I have a question about the tongue. The one in my game is broken. I assume that part is not available anywhere? Also, is the tongue supposed to hang down to the level or a ball can hit it on the play field? Or is it mounted higher so the balls can freely roll under it?
image (resized).jpgQuoted from uncivil_engineer:I just picked a Grand Lizard, and I have a question about the tongue. The one in my game is broken. I assume that part is not available anywhere? Also, is the tongue supposed to hang down to the level or a ball can hit it on the play field? Or is it mounted higher so the balls can freely roll under it?
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The tongue sticks straight out and ball drops off of it. You will probably have to make one.
Quoted from uncivil_engineer:I just picked a Grand Lizard, and I have a question about the tongue. The one in my game is broken. I assume that part is not available anywhere? Also, is the tongue supposed to hang down to the level or a ball can hit it on the play field? Or is it mounted higher so the balls can freely roll under it?
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The tongue should not be that low. Several owners have made their own by replacements by cutting it out of a red plastic sheet. Did you find a decal for the upper pf?
Luzor, do you know anyone selling the tongue replacement?
You should be able to get a decal from this member:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/grand-lizard-upper-playfield-decal
Quoted from Cyrus:You should be able to get a decal from this member:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/grand-lizard-upper-playfield-decal
I sent him a pm last night. Hop the will get back to me soon.
Quoted from Cyrus:Luzor, do you know anyone selling the tongue replacement?
I...think you mean me, right? Well, no, never seen any new tongues for sale for GL, although ive seen a GL thats in Norway had a tongue made from red plastic sheet. Might be a useful tip.
Clean up and set up for Yegpin tournament next month. Tossed the color GI (yeah, I know...), went cool white and neon green/orange posts with clear rubbers. Put some solid scores after too, this is a tough game, but addictive!
Before and after pics, there is a Pin Stadium kit in there too, tied to the Lizard flasher.
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Are you looking to sell it? Mine looks like it has been stepped on. I have found several bent plastics in my machine, and I am starting to think my machine sat for too long in a hot warehouse.
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I think that actually looks pretty good. I may have to shamelessly copy that.
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