I used a Gand caravan to pick up my Shadow, and to my recollection there wasn't a whole lot of room left. It would be extremely tight. The seats in mine do fold down into the floorboard.

Yes....you should be OK...put the IJ in from the back and put the EM in from the side (forming a "t")...I have moved two a number of times this way (even two DMDs)...yes the seats should fold flat for you to load them up. When you rent the van ask them if they have stow n go seating...I assume they all do but doesn't hurt to ask.

I believe Hogey is correct. I remember taking measurements and being able to fit one in from the back and another in from the sliding doors. I do know that my Shadow wouldn't fit from the side though due to the gun/plunger. IJ will definitely need to go in through the back.

I have borrowed my dad's 05' Grand Caravan to move pins in the past. The seats are removable, and when removed you can literally fit 3 pins in there (though that would be with heads removed). I moved a Party Zone and a Dr. Dude with both of the heads still on (folded) in a T-shape in this car. You can also get 1 pin in the car without even taking the middle seat out.

Great pin hauler!

-BB

I have an '08. Should be plenty of room. Rear seats fold down and middle seats are easily removable.

Hoagy and anyone else that says you are fine are correct. Only possible thing to add is you may need to put the first machine in the back and turn it 90 degrees on the way to the front. If you can get a cheap, thin piece of plywood or a large piece of cardboard it makes it a LOT easier.

I leave a 8' piece of masonite in mine. I once loaded 4 EM's in it and drove back from LA to Sacramento. It was tight. On vacation with my wife, she didn't mind the tight quarters.
Izzy

Both should fit sideways.

We have an '05 GC and have hauled many pairs. The only time it was close to not working was when I picked up two widebody Space Invaders. Had to lay them on their sides. Didn't want to but it was the only way. The two you are getting should be no problem. You can fit them both length wise side by side head to foot.

Yes, IJ will slide in from the back without hitting the top. Also the cardboard or plywood to help slide them in is good...I went away from that and cut a piece of pvc to about 3 ft. long and put the game on top of it and it rolls into the van with very little effort. Then you need to lift the pin to remove the pvc so the game won't slide around in the back when you travel with it. I forget who originally discussed this method but it's been great.

I use our GC to move pins two at a time all the time. 1/4 inch plywood 4*8 on the floor. First game in the back, rotate 90 degrees and slide up against the front seats. Second game straight in. No problem.

Side door opening isn't big enough to get a modern game in with the head on. Not sure about an EM.

Have to leave the front seats a hair forward to fit the plywood. Can do it without the wood, it's just much easier wth it.

Yes, you definitely can. In a current Dodge Caravan, I've hauled:

Two B/W DMD games at the same time (Judge Dredd slid in from the back and positions width-wise behind the front seats, and Fish Tales perpendicular in the back)

A DMD and an EM (Top Score EM body slid in from the side, Shaq Attaq slid in from the back, with Top Score head next to it.)

Revenge From Mars body, head, and SWEP1 kit (that was tight.)

Seeburg Model A jukebox (a BIG one) slid in the back, two EMs stacked on top of each other slid in from the side with heads behind them.

A Caravan is about the best "normal" vehicle you can have as a pin hauler.

I have been using PVC for about 10 years, there is nothing better (for me). My 03 Caravan has hauled 3 WPCs at the same time without removing the heads (it is a little tricky).

For the PVC, cut 3 or 4 pieces about 4 feet long (or just wide enough to fit width-wise in your vehicle). Instead of rolling on the PVC, put two pieces in length wise into the vehicle and simply slide your machine down the PVC, it will fly right in, with zero effort. In the Caravan, you can usually fit the first pin in through the passenger side door, not needing to slide and rotate, but if it doesnt fit through there, have a 3rd piece of PVC length wise sitting right behind the front seats. when you get to the point where you are going to rotate the machine, move it onto the other piece of PVC and let the PVC do most of the work for you.

i have an 05 town and country (basically the same thing). you can do 2 EMs in the back and one WPC through the side straped on a dolly max. the passenger door opens more than the driver for some reason from the factory.

This is due to the fuel door.

I have a 2011 Grand Caravan, just had a T2 and a JP in it with out issue. The T2 was sideways behind the driver and passenger seat, and the JP was straight in.