I am working on a Miss Annabelle and the only thing left to workout is why the game is not giving credits once I reach the high scores! In looking at the 100 Point Score Reel I noticed that one arm was off of the wiper! So I thought this was an easy fix until I looked at the parts catalog and noticed that there is actually a one arm wiper part number! So I reached out to PBR to inquire but unfortunately they didn't advise as to whether or not Miss Annabelle was to have a one or two arm wiper!

Long question short.....anyone know whether this game is to have a 1 or 2 arm wiper on the 100 Point Score Reel?

Also, if one arm is correct any ideas as to what else might be the issue with the game not giving credits for high scores?

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I re-looked at the email from PBR and he does state "A4431 Wiper - 1 Arm - Offered Used Only $5.90ea (Used on the 100 Unit)"! So it appears that the 100 unit is to only have one arm!!! Which is great that they did advise but just means I have an issue somewhere!!!

I have gone through the score motor several times and everything is gaped properly, even had another set of eyes look at it!

and yes I am schematically challenged as well!

I do have them but not proficient in reading them! Let me know what I can provide and I'll be happy to do so! Thanks for helping out!

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They say no question is a dumb question but let me prove that wrong......where is the Add Replay relay at? I see it on the schematics but when I look at the relays in the machine none are marked Add Replay Relay!

On another note and out of curiosity.... what is the clip for on the 100 point score reel and why is it different from the e-clips on the 1 and 10 score reels?

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Yes I checked this as well as cleaned the contacts on the arm as well as the board!

Can you explain? Did it originally have a e-clip or was it something else?

I will check the Add replay now and yes to the other two!

Again, thanks for posting.....much appreciated!

Yeah as it appears to add nothing to the reel unless someone, that had the game prior to me, installed it incorrectly!

Okay so looking at this some more and that clip is called a Hub Ground Wire Form (part #A-4771) so it's a legit part! I am assuming that this grounds out the reel to the Ten Step Unit (Score reel)?!?!? Anyone know more about this and whether or not I it's installed correctly (see picture in post #12)

Also, I have everything pretty much working except the 100 Point Score Reel! It will keep score correctly BUT when it comes to resetting to 0 it wont move! If I give it a little "push" it will! Odd thing is .... if I manually do it the reel moves freely with no resistance at all! It appears to be reel (see what I did there) smooth so it's not like its hanging up on something!!!!

Bump for the night techs!!!

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correct on both accounts. Sometimes I need to manually move it to zero and other times once I movie it one digit it will continue by itself!

Thanks for the post!

I will take the reel off an re-look at it! I can tell you that I have cleaned all the parts on this reel already but maybe I am missing something!

When I say clean I mean all the components were cleaned and even took the plunger and used Mothers polish on it, replaced coil sleeve, cleaned all contacts on the switches etc.

We'll do .... will look at it tomorrow and report back! Thanks!

Alright got the reel moving now but for whatever reason it wont go past 7 unless I help it along! Also, if I play a game it wont go past 7 in scoring as well! Seems as though the plastic gear, although intact, has some play in it!?!?!

Also, for some reason my game is giving a free game when I pass 400 points. This isnt one of the high score options!

yep I know what you're speaking of! Is there a trick to adjusting it? By trick I mean is there a certain way to adjust it or is it a matter of just moving it little by little till getting it to work right?

Thanks for all of the assistance!

So I did some adjusting and more adjusting all to no avail! This bloody score reel is killing me (excuse the venting)! It worked before so I know it somehow just got out of wack! It's just getting to 7 and not catching! With the score reel off if I put the slight pressure on the nylon gear (clockwise) the pawl will grab the gear! Without that little pressure the gear is not turning enough for the pawl to grab it! There is some play in the gear so not sure if this is the issue!

Update: So I started to think that maybe just maybe since I put a new coil stop on it and pushed it against the coil as tight as possible maybe this had something to do with it! So I loosened the coil stop and now the game will reset to zero BUT WAIT it still is having an issue:

1. when it gets to 7 it stutters and it takes a little time to make it to 0
2. When playing it makes it to 7 and does the same but at some points it sticks on 7!
3. I new issue .... when I play a game and the score goes to 100 it's also turning the light on behind the 1k so I go from 99 to 1000 points at the turn of 100

Man EM is fun!!!

Best pic I can get without taking completely apart! As you stated earlier....the pawl (hard to see in my pic) is what goes into the gear and spins the reel. It works fine till it gets to 7 and then its as if the gear is not turning enough as the pawl just doesn't grab the gear! If I put the slightest pressure, going clockwise, it will catch! So that pawl is not getting into the gear as the gear is stopping just short! Make sense?

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Here is a video so you can see what is happening! The first minute of the video is me "playing a game" and just hitting ten points to get the score to go up! First thing you will notice is when I hit 100 point the 1 lights up signifying 1000 points has been scored which it has not! After adding points for the first minute I then drain the balls, ending the game and then I hit the start button to start a new game! You can see how the 100 point score reel starts to reset and gets hung up on 7, 8 and 0 before making it back to 0!

Before it would make it to 7 and just stop and I had to manually help it! Once I loosen the coil stop it now makes it to 0 but as you can see once it hits 7 it still has trouble resetting to 0!

Okay will try tomorrow! Thanks again!

Alright so I did this to no avail! Now I start looking at things closer and what not and tried without the score reel on and low and behold it works! Moved it manually and it moves without issue! Put the reel back on and when I manually push the plunger I can tell it's not as free as without the reel installed! So I turn the game on to see what happens and same issue. For whatever reason I decide to loosen the three screws on the reel and BOOM it now works! Keep in mind that I didn't really tighten that much! Basically I tighten them till it was snug! And when I loosen them I barely loosen them!! The reel is "working" but there are times, when resetting, that it will pass 0 one or two times but eventually it comes to a stop! I cant figure this one out!

Now I still have the issue of the game going from 99 to 1000 points instead of going to 100.

Thank you both!! I will look at this tomorrow and report back .... for now Iam drowning my sorrows over another sh*tty showing by the Penguins!!!

Alright found that the finger that rides the cam & ratchet hub was misaligned so it wasn't triggering when it should have. 1000 Light issue now resolved! The Score Reel needs a little adjustment but I will get that later tonight!

Gentleman thank you for all of the assistance on this as I BELIEVE we're now up and running! You have helped bring a game back to life that has sat in a basement for just over 30 years without being turned on!
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