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Gottlieb Top Card reset bank target relay #8


By SteamVette

1 year ago



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    #1 1 year ago

    I have been working on my Gottlieb Top card. My number eight target does not work and traced it to the relay bank and my number 8 target relay coil has both wires loose. Can someone take a photo of where they go so i know I have them in the correct location? One of them is obvious. Just not sure about the other one.

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    #2 1 year ago
    Quoted from SteamVette:

    My number eight target does not work and traced it to the relay bank and my number 8 target relay coil has both wires loose.

    Could it be that the relay coil is working just fine? Do you hear it trip when you hit the #8 target? Looking at your pictures it seems possible that the loose wires are from the #8 relay switch stack and not the relay coil.
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    The #8 relay has a couple of switches on its switch stack. One turns out the #8 light and the other helps fire the Q/8 through King Sequence Completed relay. The blue-white wire controls the light and goes to the normally closed switch on the switch stack. The red-white wire goes to the normally open switch and is part of the Q relay circuit.

    /Mark

    #3 1 year ago

    Thanks Mark, You are Correct. The coil is working fine. Light does now work as well as the other issue you mentioned. One solders back on to the top there. I'm not sure where the other goes on that switch. I can't seam to see where it came off.

    #4 1 year ago
    Quoted from SteamVette:

    One solders back on to the top there. I'm not sure where the other goes on that switch. I can't seam to see where it came off.

    It looks like the red jumper wire is connected to one of the two bottom solder lugs. Is there anything soldered to the other one?
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    #5 1 year ago

    Thanks MarkG. If you look right above your right arrow that is where one of them solders to. I don't know where the other one came from. I don't see any excess solder area.

    #6 1 year ago
    Quoted from SteamVette:

    I don't see any excess solder area.

    Have you looked underneath the solder lugs, with a mirror if necessary?

    The point I tried to make is that there are just two switches on that switch stack, with a total of four solder lugs. The top two solder lugs comprise one switch, the bottom two solder lugs comprise the other switch. (Examine the switch stack carefully to convince yourself that that is the case.)

    Your photo doesn't show which switch is normally open (before the relay trips) and which is normally closed. Nor does it show the wire color of the two lugs that are soldered. The two wires that are soldered (running across the photo) are likely just jumpers between neighboring switches. You need to follow those jumpers until you find a connection to a wire that matches a wire color shown in the schematic in reply #2. That will help confirm which switch is which.

    You should find that the normally open switch has one lug soldered, probably through a jumper, to a switch on the 9B relay switch stack. That one should have the red-white wire soldered to the other lug. The normally closed switch should have one lug soldered (possibly through jumper) to a white-black wire. That one should have the blue-white wire soldered to the other lug.

    #7 1 year ago
    Quoted from MarkG:

    Have you looked underneath the solder lugs, with a mirror if necessary?

    Thanks MarkG. I will put a mirror under the post and with a better light and see what's under there. It almost has to go under there as the wire is not long enough to go much farther.

    #8 1 year ago

    I was able to figure out that the Blue and white wire is for the light and I was able to solder it to the top post. The white and brownish wire I have no clue where it goes. Can't find any indication of a solder joint. It's only about 4" long (from the wire bundle) and can't go far.

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    #9 1 year ago

    The brownish-white wire is actually a faded red-white wire that goes on the bottom right solder lug:
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    #10 1 year ago

    That's it!!! Got it soldered up and actually played a game. Now off to my next problem. Second game did not kick a ball out and the motor switch just keeps spinning. Fun fun.

    Quoted from MarkG:

    The brownish-white wire is actually a faded red-white wire that goes on the bottom right solder lug:

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