stargate is still one of my top 8 favorites of all time. Had SMBMW as well. I would love waterworld to get a ROM makeover, same with barb wire. Both have great playfield layouts, just need better rule sets.

the rules are unbalanced but overall not bad.

i have to agree. Stargate looks better natural, and it ghosts like crazy. I did put blue LED's in the gate tho, now you can actually see them lit.

Bonebusters is system 3.

oops, looks like it's one of the last 80B's to be made. My bad.

once do the ground mods, shouldn't be an issue.

yea, system 80 always had ground issues. Mainly due to the backbox being some stupid foil on cardboard setup. Couple of jumpers you add to the boards to make them more stable. It's in Clays guides if you have access to them. People have PDF's saved of them if you need it for reference.

so you don't have to do the ground mods to later system 80B's?

i'm sure Steve young has them at Pinball resource. He has everything gottlieb. well most things.

Teed' off is great. I like it better than NGG.