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Gottlieb Surf Champ chatty pop bumper action

By bayoubilly70

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

I'm used to working on (and owning) Bally/Williams/Stern early solid state games so please bear with the question...

I have a Gottlieb 'Surf Champ' that appears to be working 100%, but I notice that when the ball activates one pop bumper via going into its skirt the other pop bumper fires as well. I'm used to working on "chatty" pop bumpers and fixing the problem by adjusting the switches of the peer pop bumpers if the contacts are too close. All the pop bumper related switches on this game seem to be gapped fine though.

Is this just normal behavior for this era of Gottlieb EM games? Online videos of 'Surf Champ' seem to exhibit the same behavior (or all have the same issue to fix).

(yes, I need a schematic, but just figured I'd fire this question out there).

TIA

#2 1 year ago

Don't own or know Surf Champ in particular, but pops firing in tandem on Gottliebs is pretty common.

**** I can't stress enough how much I likely just jinxed you and that Surf Champ is an exception and you have an issue to track down.

Edit - OK, jinx free. Reading between the lines in this thread makes me believe it's just a single relay for both pops.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/surf-champ-pop-bumper-coil-locks-on-during-start-up

#3 1 year ago

As previously stated, this is normal for some/most Gottlieb's. Look at the schematic and you will see they are simultaneously activated.

#4 1 year ago

Great - thanks folks

#5 1 year ago

Yeah, either pop switch actives the B relay, which fires both pops.

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