(Topic ID: 270300)

Gottlieb sunset reset issue

By blbarchik

3 years ago



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    #1 3 years ago

    On the game, it will reset normally whenever I initially turn it on and start a game. I play all 5 balls then it goes into game over. I have the credit wheel contacts closed to it's on free play.

    Issue is after playing 5 balls , I press the credit button and it will add a player and score moror turns for a second, but I dont get a game reset so game is dead. The SB relay doesn't drop in either. I'm stumped, any help appreciated.

    #2 3 years ago

    Not knowing the game I would guess that the game over relay or relays has a two way set of leafs that is not isolating the power.

    #3 3 years ago

    Ok I can look At that.

    #4 3 years ago

    Do you have a schematic? If so, can you post a nice clean snippet of the relevant area? And the legend.

    #5 3 years ago
    Quoted from blbarchik:

    Issue is after playing 5 balls , I press the credit button and it will add a player and score moror turns for a second, but I dont get a game reset so game is dead

    If the Start Relay (SB) on the relay bank doesn't trip when you do this, Inspect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires
    http://www.planetimming.com/Pinball/troubleshooting/EM%20Troubleshooting.pdf
    http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#features

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    #6 3 years ago

    Ok I will check out the pictograms you provided.

    I also wanted to clarify that the sb relay will activate during initial start up. (The game is in tilt mode prior to initial start up) Just not after i play the first game.

    #7 3 years ago
    Quoted from blbarchik:

    Ok I will check out the pictograms you provided.
    I also wanted to clarify that the sb relay will activate during initial start up. (The game is in tilt mode prior to initial start up) Just not after i play the first game.

    Then the normally open switch on the Fist Ball relay (ZB) with a Green wire on one terminal and an Slate-Red wire on the other is probably out of adjustment.

    For a switch to work 3 things are necessary:
    1) When open, there should be a small space between the contact points (duh)
    2) When closing, the long blade's contact point should push the short blade's contact point enough to move the short blade
    3) The contact points should be clean, which they usually will be if #2 is happening

    #8 3 years ago

    The first ball relay trip needs a 1 point switch to energize. I was play testing and never hit a one point switch. I hit a one pt switch and now it engages. So now upon reset the sb pulls in and resets correctly. Thanks!

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