(Topic ID: 121581)

Gottlieb score reel wiring color codes


By dasvis

5 years ago



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    #1 5 years ago

    Did Gottlieb use the same color codes for the wiring on all EM score reels?
    Say 1966 & up? or...

    #2 5 years ago

    nope! not that ever encountered
    I have found that wires in a few machines did not match the print. I think they ran out of wire and just grabbed a roll of what ever

    #3 5 years ago
    Quoted from dasvis:

    Did Gottlieb use the same color codes for the wiring on all EM score reels?
    Say 1966 & up? or...

    you think they were going to make it THAT easy on us???

    it would have been nice if all wiring had been consistent... not that i would remember, given my brain is swiss cheese these days, but i know some guys would be able to rattle it off if it had stayed the same from game to game...

    #4 5 years ago

    Ack!
    thanks for the encouragement........

    #5 5 years ago

    and you thought re wiring that head was going to be easy!

    #6 5 years ago
    Quoted from dasvis:

    Ack!
    thanks for the encouragement........

    yea, i know, not real encouraging... it really would have been easier if there was some consistency...

    when i got my first machine, i learned how to read the schematic, and made the (seemingly obvious) assumption that other "like" machines would have consistent wiring... when i got my 2nd machine, i was quickly disabused of that assumption...

    Quoted from boilerman:

    nope! not that ever encountered
    I have found that wires in a few machines did not match the print. I think they ran out of wire and just grabbed a roll of what ever

    yea i can remember searching and searching on the schematic for a machine for a color that didn't exist on the schematic...

    #7 5 years ago
    Quoted from boilerman:

    and you thought re wiring that head was going to be easy!

    Well, the wires are there in the head already & mostly going to the general area where they are supposed to go.. just a matter of hooking them up to the correct places on the mechs (is all).
    Looks like I am going to better at reading schematics.
    Found a bunch of score reel sets & a credit unit. May have a lead on a match unit out of a pin that's the same year. Just need to check the parts manual to see what contact boards are used in both. Who knows, I might get lucky.

    #8 5 years ago
    Quoted from dasvis:

    Well, the wires are there in the head already & mostly going to the general area where they are supposed to go.. just a matter of hooking them up to the correct places on the mechs (is all).
    Looks like I am going to better at reading schematics.
    Found a bunch of score reel sets & a credit unit. May have a lead on a match unit out of a pin that's the same year. Just need to check the parts manual to see what contact boards are used in both. Who knows, I might get lucky.

    sit down with a few of your favorite beverages and a schematic, and just sit there and trace "logic circuits" (e.g. what happens if i hit this target and it scores this many points?)... after doing this a few times, it will come to you...

    cool!! almost there!!! i'm really looking forward to seeing it brought back to life...

    #9 5 years ago
    Quoted from dasvis:

    Well, the wires are there in the head already & mostly going to the general area where they are supposed to go.. just a matter of hooking them up to the correct places on the mechs (is all).
    Looks like I am going to better at reading schematics.
    Found a bunch of score reel sets & a credit unit. May have a lead on a match unit out of a pin that's the same year. Just need to check the parts manual to see what contact boards are used in both. Who knows, I might get lucky.

    you will get better or die trying!!!
    you will have to remap the match unit it will not be plug and play

    #10 5 years ago
    Quoted from boilerman:

    you will get better or die trying!!!
    you will have to remap the match unit it will not be plug and play

    go die on that hill marine!!!!

    @dasvis... dunno if this will help or not, but this is how i learned to decipher a schematic...

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/reading-schematics-how-i-learned-maybe-it-will-help-others#post-1538801

    #11 5 years ago
    Quoted from boilerman:

    you will get better or die trying!!!
    you will have to remap the match unit it will not be plug and play

    i believe i have some close-up pics of the 0-9 disk floating around somewhere if he needs pics...

    probably some in the "i'm afraid to clean this thread", actually...

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/im-almost-afraid-to-clean-this#post-1462914

    #12 5 years ago
    Quoted from ccotenj:

    cool!! almost there!!! i'm really looking forward to seeing it brought back to life...

    Well, I still have my High hand to touchup & clear, then put back together & troubleshoot...
    My Top card to start on, an Alien poker for a friend, a CC Top ten, & the Royal guard.

    #13 5 years ago

    ^^^

    ought to be getting to it in a couple weekends then...

    #14 5 years ago

    I thinks the Royal guard will be a primary side project, does not need much other than this head mess. The playfield is really nice, cabinet passable.

    #15 5 years ago
    Quoted from ccotenj:

    ...but i know some guys would be able to rattle it off if it had stayed the same from game to game...

    I know some guys who seem like they can do it anyway.

    #16 5 years ago

    Got the replay unit & took it apart and cleaned it up. Works perfect, looks perfect. Appears to be a really low mileage unit, zero wear on the coil stops. Score reels should be here soon.
    Sat down with the schematic & my Fluke - traced some wires & actually figured out where a couple are supposed to go. This is going to take a while...

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