I'm working on getting a Gottlieb Kingpin up and running. When turning the machine on, the ten thousand reel just keeps spinning even without pressing the start button. When pressing the start button the others don't reset and the first reel keeps going. I am including pictures of the switches on the reels at the zero position, the 1-8 position and the 9 position. Can anyone tell by looking if these look right for these positions?pinball 221.jpgpinball 224.jpgpinball 227.jpgpinball 221.jpgpinball 221.jpg

Doesn't appear to be anything stuck on. If there was, wouldn't that score relay also be constantly energized as well? Can anyone confirm if the pictures of the switches look right?

In regard to the last two posts, the second photo is the 1-8 position which DirtFlipper said should be closed and they are definitely open. All the reels seem to look alike in all positions. They may have been badly adjusted at some point. I am assuming that when 1-8 are closed that 0 and 9 should be open. However, I read in the online repair guides that zero switch should be open at zero. This doesn't make sense because it seems like it should be closed at zero and open when 1-8 closes. Any thoughts?

The fourth and fifth pics are the same as the first. They got added in by mistake. Took a couple of days off from working on it but I'm going to get back into it soon. I'll adjust the middle switch and see what happens. I'll post results on how it works out.

Back working on it again. I have the switches adjusted pretty good on three of the four reels. I also found these two disconnected wires on the ten thousand reel. Does anyone know which lugs they go on? The wires are faded but one appears to be blue and black stripe and the other looks like either red or orange with blue or black. The lugs that are open are zero, one, two and four. Thanks in advance.

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Don't have schematics. The other two wires are on the C and 3 lugs if that's what you mean.

Tried this and it worked. Score reel re-setting to zero now. Now I just have to figure out the hundreds reel. This reel doesn't have a PCB. I've seen pics online and it didn't have one either. Is this normal? Thanks

Everything is working fine now. Score reels are re-setting and it's starting a game. Sometimes the 100s will still reset to a random number but it will still start a game. I suspect a switch may still be slightly out of adjustment or the return spring may need more tension as sometimes when I manually advance the reel, the plunger can be a little slow to retract. Does that sound logical or should I be checking other things?

I pretty much have all the problems fixed. The last thing stumping me is that the 100's reel will reset perfectly whenever it's on a number other than 1 or 2. Whenever it's on those numbers it gives an initial jump like it wants to reset but it wont move after that. If I give the reel a little jiggle it starts to move and resets. It was doing this on 8 as well for a while but that seems to have fixed itself. Any ideas. Thanks in advance.

I looked at and adjusted the switches again and they are all resetting now. However, after fixing that problem, another problem came up. After the reels reset and the ball kicks to the shooter lane, the tens reel energizes and locks on kind of like a switch is stuck on. But no 10's switches are stuck. It energizes right as it hits the shooter lane switch. It did this another time briefly but went away on it's own. Any ideas on this one? Thanks

I think you're right about the problem coming from the play field. I unplugged the jones plug and the problem stopped. I looked over all the switches and they look ok as far as I can tell. Also, when the switch is locked on, the slingshots still give a weak response when hit. The upper ten point switches don't do anything. Does this give any clues as to what switch the problem could be coming from? Thanks

I looked at the switches again and haven't found anything touching as best as I can see. However, one of the switch blades has snapped off at the back tab where it goes into the Bakelite stack. I think I did this while checking it and that it was ok previously. My question is can I substitute a switch of the same style from another play field that I have laying around. The only difference is the other switch is from a Bally game of the same time period. I'm guessing a switch is switch and that it's ok but I figured I'd ask first. Thanks for all your help.