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Gottlieb Playball Ball Problem

By MSS400

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

Gottlieb Play Ball Machine has worked great for years until now. But now on start-up, ball counter cycles all the way through ball 5, then it's game over. If I remove the ball, it stops cycling. Help! I've had machines for years, but definitely a novice here.

#2 1 year ago

I wonder if this red switch on the O relay is staying closed when it should open. If I understand this circuit correctly, the Ball Return switch should energize the Q relay. A switch on the Q relay (which is now closed) in series with the red normally-closed O switch and the Motor 1C switch (the red circuit) would turn on the P relay. The P relay turns on the score motor for a cycle, which increases the ball count by 1. A switch on the P relay also energizes the O relay when the Motor 4C switch closes - opening the n/c O switch in the red part of the circuit. With that O switch open, the P relay should de-energize when a Motor 2B switch in its lock-in circuit (in green) opens (at the end of the motor cycle)...unless that red O switch is staying closed, in which case the P relay would stay energized and keep the score motor turning, and the ball count increasing.

When you remove the ball, you open the Ball Return switch, which turns off the Q relay, which then shuts down the P relay, which shuts down the score motor.

Is the P relay staying energized the entire time this ball count increase is happening? Is the O relay energizing at all?
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#3 1 year ago

Thanks for the info! Although I'm having trouble figuring out which contacts are which, I did notice that the O Ball Return Relay isn't doing anything at all. And compared to the other solenoid coils, this one (see photo) looks a little "toasty" to my unskilled eyes. You think I might just need a new solenoid coil?

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#4 1 year ago

Yeah, that O coil looks pretty dark. I'd unsolder one of the 2 leads and measure the resistance with an ohm meter. I'm guessing your coil will read open. You can get those coils from The Pinball Resource - that coil is an A-9735.

Once you get it in there, you'll have to watch it to see if it locks on - it burned up for a reason.

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