Just picked up a Pinball Pool that needs some love! I couldn't find a club, I know there is a sys1 club but this will keep things specific to PP.

Since I have a joker poker that needs lots of work, and my friend Ordo has a few sys1's. I have a little experience and decided instead of rebuilding the boards I would shotgun both mine with the Pascal all-in-one. I also have a LISY board that works great, and if you would like to keep the other boards or for cost reasons, it is a great way to go. I just didn't want to deal with all the other boards being replaced or rebuilt.

The backglass has flaked a lot, cabinet is ok, playfield has wear but not horrible. Inner cabinet and head aren't that dirty either. The right drop bank was hanging, couple wires cut/unsoldered. So I assume a coil may of locked on, or they were just looking to replace drop targets and never finished. The game powers but I don't want to go much further until the new board comes and I'll validate power at the transformers and plug in the head.

Boston pinball is out of stock of the LED displays, not sure there are any other places that make/sell them?

Looking back into the best "retro" led to use as well. In my playball I used CT frosted warm white, after testing MANY others. I did notice they were very short and the elongated comet retro's may be easier to install. I'll order a few samples again of comet and CT and decide.

Basic info:
IPDB: https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1795
Parts and resources: http://www.pbresource.com/PinballPool.html
Major resource of repair and info on sys 1: http://www.pinrepair.com/sys1/

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Leds I will test:

Comet retro bullet smd - warm white
https://www.cometpinball.com/products/retro-smd-bullet-bulbs?_pos=3&_sid=bccef2f6d&_ss=r
Comet 455 Blinking Dim (Fast) - warm white
https://www.cometpinball.com/products/455-dim-blinking-bulbs
Comet 455 Blinking slow and fast - warm white
https://www.cometpinball.com/products/455-blinking-bulbs

CT Bright frosted - warm white
https://cointaker.com/products/44-47-frosted
CT 455 Blinker - warm white
https://cointaker.com/products/copy-of-545-blinker-led

My drop target banks have non stock targets. I was going to get all new ones, what is the easiest way to replace them?

I'm missing a thin coil on top of the drop bank, to lower the target, anyone have a p/n for that? I can't read the other one I can see, looks kinda burnt.

Thanks! I think you are right about that coil.

I'll be ordering the manual, but does it by chance list the coil sleeves for the entire game? The 4 on the drop target bank reset look different than I've seen. One side has long brass and the right looks like the "plastic" ones. I'd like to re-sleeve the game so they all slide nice. None were seized , so that is a good sign.

Some pics

My right side drop target bank has wires cut and coil missing.

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Starting the game. Tested power and it looks good before the power board, so I pulled the stock boards out and put the pascal in, and added fuses to the small transformer

Thanks to pinwiki and pinrepair for getting through the tests and upgrades

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Here are some comparisons if anyone goes led.

I’m still in the coin taker warm white camp, the comet warm white is still tooo led white for me. But their bullet bulbs are nice to be able to reach the deeper sockets from the top of the pf.

Coin taker on left, no plastic
Standard bulb on right
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Coin taker left, standard right, plastic
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Comet left, standard right no plastic
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Comet left, standard right plastic
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Comet left, coin taker right in pops
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Put the fuses in, installed the Boston led displays and fired it up!

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Fixed all cut wires for that drop target bank.

Installed new springs and drop targets, did all underside LED’s. Just need to rebuild flippers!

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Oh, forgot, I bought a chime unit off eBay to install and swap over the sound board to chimes!

Just got the chime unit in and wired. WOW!!!! Soooo amazing with chimes.

I'll upload pics of the chime unit, I totally suggest this install. It sounds soooo amazing with chimes.

Issues left:
1 drop target is slow to drop
left flipper is slow to drop
replace the leg bolt straps in the cab

Game looks great with coin taker sunlights and I did color match some of the inserts. New plastics pop! Curious about protecting them from the posts under them with a screw head. I suppose you'd drill a new hole in the plastic and use a normal post like the others...not thinking of drilling them since this game will be FS soon.

Chime unit install
guide
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-convert-gottlieb-system-1-to-chimes#post-1536693

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Nice pickup! I actually miss mine... plays like an em.