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Monte Carlo
Gottlieb, 1987
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Windsor, ON
My Monte Carlo is having issues. When I press the start button everything works as it should… except the flippers pop bumpers and kickers. Also the topper isn’t working… any suggestions?
Quoted from pinballboy:My Monte Carlo is having issues. When I press the start button everything works as it should… except the flippers pop bumpers and kickers. Also the topper isn’t working… any suggestions?
Check voltages first. Di you have a solid 5V at the MPU? If not it may be time to go over the power board. I typically install a precision trim pot and reflow teh connector pins.
You can try reseating the cable connections too.
It would help to know if this is a new game doing this or one that was working fine and just started doing this.
Quoted from Robotworkshop:Check voltages first. Di you have a solid 5V at the MPU? If not it may be time to go over the power board. I typically install a precision trim pot and reflow teh connector pins.
You can try reseating the cable connections too.
It would help to know if this is a new game doing this or one that was working fine and just started doing this.
it was working then i stated a game and it just wasnt
Macomb, MI
Quoted from pinballboy:it was working then i stated a game and it just wasnt
Something quick and easy: did you check the fuses??
On Manual pag.17 you will find the list and location of the fuses.
If everything is ok, I will follow Robotworkshop suggestions
Quoted from A1k71:Something quick and easy: did you check the fuses??
On Manual pag.17 you will find the list and location of the fuses.
If everything is ok, I will follow Robotworkshop suggestions
I already checked the fuses… I also noticed my topper isn’t working so if there are any suggestions for that to.
Quoted from pinballboy:it was working then i stated a game and it just wasnt
I think every game on pinside was working fine until it wasn't... Really need a dew more specifics. Have you had it for a while and was everything playing well for you up to this point? Simple yes or no is fine.
Do you have the manual for the game? If not you can order one from pbresource.com Having the manual will help.
If it stopped working then you need to start by checking power. There are some excellent troubleshooting tips on the Gottlieb System 80 section of pinwiki.com
The original potentiometer on the power board does fail. If it does the 5V could be missing, low, etc and it will cause all sorts of issues. Best to measure and see. Also the pins on the connector where it is soldered to the board can crack and need to be resoldered.
Can you post a picture of the MPU board? Does it still have an on board battery? Are there signs of battery corrosion? If there was it may have gotten into the connector pins too.
Quoted from Robotworkshop:I think every game on pinside was working fine until it wasn't... Really need a dew more specifics. Have you had it for a while and was everything playing well for you up to this point? Simple yes or no is fine.
Do you have the manual for the game? If not you can order one from pbresource.com Having the manual will help.
If it stopped working then you need to start by checking power. There are some excellent troubleshooting tips on the Gottlieb System 80 section of pinwiki.com
The original potentiometer on the power board does fail. If it does the 5V could be missing, low, etc and it will cause all sorts of issues. Best to measure and see. Also the pins on the connector where it is soldered to the board can crack and need to be resoldered.
Can you post a picture of the MPU board? Does it still have an on board battery? Are there signs of battery corrosion? If there was it may have gotten into the connector pins too.
the game was working when igot it 3 days ago, i fixed the topper already and ordered a manual, will do ground mods then.
1 week later
1 week later
Quoted from A1k71:New Monte Carlo owner here.
Brought it home yesterday and everything was working fine.
Today, instead, when I add credit it goes on test mode; to add a credit I need to start a game, then add the credit (game Tilt, but add the credit).
Is there a way to set it to free mode?? Also switch 65 closed.
Any ideas or suggestions?? i adding some picture to better show my system
Thank you in advance!!!
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I have a monte carlo as well and was able to enable free play by following the guide below. I used a little jumper wire I bought on Amazon. Nice thing is, it can easily be removed and required no soldering.
https://pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Gottlieb_System_80#Free_Play_for_System_80B_Games
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0852KRNPP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title
I can send you a picture if you want.
1 week later
Quoted from A1k71:Decided to add some under cabinets lights to my Monte Carlo, what do you think?
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Looks great! Might have to do that to my Monte Carlo, can you get playfield pics, I might want to change some things on mine.
1 year later
Quoted from Crispy77:The alternate translites look so much better on MC.
Any sources for those or is this a roll your own and have it printed by someone like https://gameongrafix.com/ ?
Quoted from jjga:Any sources for those or is this a roll your own and have it printed by someone like https://gameongrafix.com/ ?
I found one source.
Quoted from jjga:I may actually like the original more than the alternates.
The translites are part of the total cheeze package which make so many of the 80B's awesome 
I've gotten more than a few 80B's with the alternate translite rolled up inside the cab and I just leave it there hehe.
5 months later
*** update - answering my own question, adding for others. I need part number 21219 - sponge rubber washer (6). It appears the red felt in my machine may not be original?
https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php/Gottlieb_System_80
https://www.pbresource.com/pfplayfSS.htm shows out of stock right now. Will update if I get the part or decide to use a work around noted in the wiki page.
*** update - found the part at marcospec.com
Hi,
I'm new to the site and have very little knowledge on pinball machines. After years of infrequent use my Monte Carlo needs a little TLC. The first thing I want to tackle is the cover for the roulette wheel on the play field. It's hard to tell from the picture but it sits a millimeter or two below the playing surface and frequently launches the ball between the glass and a target or whatever. Play has to stop so the ball can be rescued. It appears the felt between the cover and the wheel has compressed over the years. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to correct this problem? Years ago I tried installing new felt but my ability to cut circles in felt fell short.
Quoted from TheSilence:*** update - answering my own question, adding for others. I need part number 21219 - sponge rubber washer (6). It appears the red felt in my machine may not be original?
https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php/Gottlieb_System_80
https://www.pbresource.com/pfplayfSS.htm shows out of stock right now. Will update if I get the part or decide to use a work around noted in the wiki page.
Hi,
I'm new to the site and have very little knowledge on pinball machines. After years of infrequent use my Monte Carlo needs a little TLC. The first thing I want to tackle is the cover for the roulette wheel on the play field. It's hard to tell from the picture but it sits a millimeter or two below the playing surface and frequently launches the ball between the glass and a target or whatever. Play has to stop so the ball can be rescued. It appears the felt between the cover and the wheel has compressed over the years. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to correct this problem? Years ago I tried installing new felt but my ability to cut circles in felt fell short.
thanks!
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On my machine there is no felt or rubber ring, rather the plexiglass is set off the playfield wood with rubber washers that are only under the screws. This seems to work ok. I suspect something like a 'cut your own automotive gasket' material would also be fine if you could get one at the right thickness and cut it properly.
1 week later
This doesn't make sense to me, hopefully someone knows why. The empty light socket towards to the top right of the picture is getting 18v DC (that's right eighteen) if I touch my multi-meter positive cable to the power (violet yellow yellow) wire on the light socket and negative to the braided negative. If move the multi-meter positive cable to touch inside, where the bottom of the bulb would touch, it reads 4v. The wiring schematic says I should see 6v. The lights to the left of the empty socket read 4v. The kicker of this is the empty socket will not light up. I've tried new and existing bulbs that light up elsewhere on the play field but no luck. It simply won't light up. Any help is appreciated.
IMG_20240408_204658554_HDR (resized).jpgI read through the thread a couple times and can't find the answer.
What size is the ball in the roulette? I've got a white marble of sorts in the game at the moment.
Quoted from TheSilence:*** update - answering my own question, adding for others. I need part number 21219 - sponge rubber washer (6). It appears the red felt in my machine may not be original?
https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php/Gottlieb_System_80
https://www.pbresource.com/pfplayfSS.htm shows out of stock right now. Will update if I get the part or decide to use a work around noted in the wiki page.
*** update - found the part at marcospec.com
Hi,
I'm new to the site and have very little knowledge on pinball machines. After years of infrequent use my Monte Carlo needs a little TLC. The first thing I want to tackle is the cover for the roulette wheel on the play field. It's hard to tell from the picture but it sits a millimeter or two below the playing surface and frequently launches the ball between the glass and a target or whatever. Play has to stop so the ball can be rescued. It appears the felt between the cover and the wheel has compressed over the years. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to correct this problem? Years ago I tried installing new felt but my ability to cut circles in felt fell short.
thanks!
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So if I'm understanding correctly the rubber washers go between the clear cover and the playfield?
ACDNate The roulette ball measures ~ 3/4" / 19mm wide. Included a pic of mine next to a normal pinball.
On the washers, that's how I did it. Pics below. They have a sticky back, just peel and place them over each hole. Place the cover on the sponges, insert the bolts and tighten until the cover is 1/4" above the play field. Then in a clockwise pattern using several passes, slowly adjust each nut until it's level with the play field.
IMG_20240413_222330064 (resized).jpgIMG_20240413_222342303_HDR (resized).jpgIMG_20240413_222621019 (resized).jpgQuoted from TheSilence:ACDNate The roulette ball measures ~ 3/4" / 19mm wide. Included a pic of mine next to a normal pinball.
On the washers, that's how I did it. Pics below. They have a sticky back, just peel and place them over each hole. Place the cover on the sponges, insert the bolts and tighten until the cover is 1/4" above the play field. Then in a clockwise pattern using several passes, slowly adjust each nut until it's level with the play field.
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Thank you! You saved me ordering a bunch of different size balls to figure it out.
It seems like the wonky ball I have would explain why the roulette sequence seems to go on forever. Guess the game just keeps clicking a while and then guesses since a metal ball isn't contacting.
Quoted from ACDNate:Thank you! You saved me ordering a bunch of different size balls to figure it out.
It seems like the wonky ball I have would explain why the roulette sequence seems to go on forever. Guess the game just keeps clicking a while and then guesses since a metal ball isn't contacting.
The metal ball does not complete the circuit of the switches. There are insulated switches below the ball. More than likely you will need to take apart the entire wheel and clean (fiberglsss eraser works well) and adjust all the contact points.
Quoted from Lithium:The metal ball does not complete the circuit of the switches. There are insulated switches below the ball. More than likely you will need to take apart the entire wheel and clean (fiberglsss eraser works well) and adjust all the contact points.
Good to know. I'll take a closet look when I get back to the machine.
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