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Gottlieb Jungle Queen EM no score

By legtod2

6 years ago


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#6 6 years ago

Hi legtod2
in the very late EM-pins Gottlieb made some strange things to the Coin-Unit I show on a Target Alpha what is of interest on Jungle-Queen - the wiring to "Subtract Coin-Unit" - can You show the snippet of schematics ?
Not making points ? Can You move the flipper-bats ? Do the bumpers work ?
What is the meaning of "link to otaku" ?
(((It is late in Europe - I go to sleep --- till tomorrow))) Greetings Rolf

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#10 6 years ago

Hi legtod2
I looked at Your video --- hmm, probably not only one problem - maybe a couple of problems. For the problem "coin stepper unit" You need the schematics - and /or the help of an owner of a running Jungle Queen --- actually You should have an schematics (every pin should have the schematics).

I would like to do always the same procedure --- toggle-off the pin - put the ball in the Outhole between the flipperbats - then toggle-on - then start a new game.
For the mystery of "showing Player-FOUR is playing after start": Look at the JPG - it shows the player unit ready for Player-1-Ball-1(in a Spirit of 76 pin) --- the unit is in the so-called "Home-Position - also called Position-Zero. Do not bother about my "red lines" - see "my green line" - we are standing in the back of the pin and look towards the player - we see the bakelite disc --- then look a bit around the unit - then a steel ratched then several white cams and the last cam is (usually) black.
"Home-Position is when the single tooth on the fifth cam actuates its switchstack" --- my "green line" is something like an extension on cam-five-switchstack. Ask a friend to do the procedure to start a new game and YOU watch the fifth cam --- question: Does the Player-Unit stops stepping BEFORE "Home-Position" is reached (single tooth not actuating the switchstack) --- or does the Player-Unit nicely steps forward - reaching Home-Position (single tooth actuating the switchstack), then FAULTY steps three more steps ? Or steps faulty many steps ? How many steps ?

The problem "no counting on the Score-Drums" --- here http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1340&picno=27049 I see "outmost left and outmost right" --- near the words "Extraball when lit" --- I see two-bladed switches behind the rubbers --- the simplest way to make some points (maybe some 10 points - maybe some 100 points).
Ask a friend to actuate these switches (pin is running) and YOU look at the N M L relays in the backbox - question: DOES one of these relays actuate ? Greetings Rolf

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#13 6 years ago

Hi legtod2
thanks for the video. At time 1:54 the position of the player-unit looks strange to me --- does the single tooth on the (black) cam FIVE actuate its switchstack ?

I do not now if the playfield switches do actuate the L M N Relays.

In Target Alpha when these relays are actuated: The R-Hold-Relay (probably in the cabinet) must be pulling and its Make-and-Brake-Switch must be good and moved. The wiring from that M&B-Switch up to the Backbox and the Jones-Plug in this wiring must be good --- this wiring goes to Switches on L M N Relay. On the other side of each of these switches on these relays there is a connection to Switches on Cam-1, 2, 3, 4 - switches named P1A, P1B, P1C etc. On the other blade are connections - I completely show "10 Score-Drums" --- connections to the Score-Drum Coils.

You get no points on L M N Relay actuating - therefore I guess: Fault must be R-Hold-Relay and/or connection up into the backbox. Greetings Rolf

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#19 6 years ago

Hi legtod2, frb
here is the stuff in Target Alpha, greetings Rolf

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