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Gottlieb Jumping Jack/ no start

By Raff

1 year ago


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    #1 1 year ago

    Press the start button on the front door
    Won't start. Checked slam switchs all good, credits on credit wheel.

    #2 1 year ago

    does it start with manually pressing the start relay? If so I'd check the contacts on the credit wheel

    If it doesnt.. can you press in the hold/tilt hold relays? do you have 24v? (does the score motor complete a 120 degree rotation when moved off of home? A sanity check I always do)

    #3 1 year ago

    Hi pinhead
    Manually pressing the start relay resets all score reels but the outhole relay keeps clicking .if I force the outhole relay to reset the game resets and goes to ball 1 but none of the 3 outhole kickers work.

    #4 1 year ago
    Quoted from Raff:

    Hi pinhead
    Manually pressing the start relay resets all score reels but the outhole relay keeps clicking .if I force the outhole relay to reset the game resets and goes to ball 1 but none of the 3 outhole kickers work.

    power to the flippers? need pieces of the schematic...

    but yea if it starts via start relay the the credit wheel zero contact is probably dirty...

    #5 1 year ago

    This'll get you started:

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    #6 1 year ago

    I looked at the switchs on the credit reel and used alligator clips on the middle switchs still did not start . And none of the outhole kickers are working

    #7 1 year ago

    Exactly how far is it getting through the startup sequence from the manual?

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    #8 1 year ago

    Gets to the outhole relay and score motor keeps turning.and the outhole relay keeps clicking does not reset.

    #9 1 year ago
    Quoted from HowardR:

    Exactly how far is it getting through the startup sequence from the manual?
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    Quoted from Raff:

    Gets to the outhole relay and score motor keeps turning.

    By "Gets to the outhole relay" do you mean the Outhole relay successfully activates? Or that it does everything up to then and the Outhole relay doesn't activate?

    #10 1 year ago
    Quoted from HowardR:

    Or that it does everything up to then and the Outhole relay doesn't activate?

    Correct

    #11 1 year ago
    Quoted from HowardR:

    Or that it does everything up to then and the Outhole relay doesn't activate?

    Inspect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gottlieb-big-shot-repair#post-6305153
    http://www.planetimming.com/Pinball/troubleshooting/EM%20Troubleshooting.pdf
    http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#features
    Example of a pinsider actually doing this https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/red-baron-tech-question#post-5858156

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    #12 1 year ago

    Sorry i got the wrong relay ,
    It gets to the u relay and keeps clicking on and off .
    It is stuck.on the u relay .

    #13 1 year ago

    What step number is that?

    #14 1 year ago
    Quoted from Raff:

    Sorry i got the wrong relay ,
    It gets to the u relay and keeps clicking on and off .
    It is stuck.on the u relay .

    is the start relay cycling in and out? sometimes we can get a stuck coin switch

    #15 1 year ago

    I ajusted a switch at 3c that fixed the u relay problem.
    The start button on the front door is not working.
    I have checked the slam.tilt switchs they are ok and I have cleaned the credit wheel switchs.
    I'm lost

    #16 1 year ago
    Quoted from Raff:

    The start button on the front door is not working.

    Since the Replay Button doesn't activate the Replay Button (V) relay,
    Inspect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gottlieb-big-shot-repair#post-6305153
    http://www.planetimming.com/Pinball/troubleshooting/EM%20Troubleshooting.pdf
    http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#features
    Example of a pinsider actually doing this https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/red-baron-tech-question#post-5858156

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    #17 1 year ago

    Problem.fixed
    It was the wires on the coin lockout relay someone had removed the relay and left all 3 wires .loose I joined the 2 lighter colour wires together and the start button worked everything came back to life.
    Thanks to everyone for helping.
    Raff

    #18 1 year ago

    Anthore problem,
    When ball 5 drains the game does not.go to.game.over , have checked the ball count in the.back box looks.good. I noticed that the QB (Game over relay) does not pull in when ball 5 is drained, score motor keeps turning. .
    Raff

    #19 1 year ago
    Quoted from Raff:

    I noticed that the QB (Game over relay) does not pull in when ball 5 is drained,

    Does the Last Ball (XB) relay activate?

    #20 1 year ago
    Quoted from HowardR:

    Does the Last Ball (XB) relay activate?

    Yes

    #22 1 year ago

    Thanks Howard
    I found the A-1118 relay coil at QB was burnt out .
    I have ordered a coil just have to wait for it to come.
    Raff.

    1 week later
    #23 1 year ago

    Put the new a-1118 coil in now have a new problem
    Ball kicker does not work IF i manual activate the O relay the ball kicker works.
    Raff.

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