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Gottlieb Gold Strike ball count unit not resetting

By HowardR

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

Steve_B asks:

Hi Howard,
Could you send me the startup sequence for Gold Strike. I couldn’t find one in the archives and have noticed you were able to post startup for similar games.
The game resets the score reels and targets but not the ball count unit, Add or Subtract. Doesn’t kick out ball.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Steve

#2 1 year ago
Quoted from HowardR:

Could you send me the startup sequence for Gold Strike. I couldn’t find one in the archives and have noticed you were able to post startup for similar games.

(1) Gottlieb add-a-ball machines didn't have a manual so unfortunately there is no published startup sequence for your Gold Strike.

Quoted from HowardR:

The game resets the score reels and targets but not the ball count unit, Add or Subtract.

(2) If the Ball Count unit doesn't count down to zero during reset,
Inspect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gottlieb-big-shot-repair#post-6305153
http://www.planetimming.com/Pinball/troubleshooting/EM%20Troubleshooting.pdf
http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#features
Example of a pinsider actually doing this https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/red-baron-tech-question#post-5858156

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#3 1 year ago

OK, here's a summary of the reset sequence. Relays O, R, and S are used in the Gottlieb-standard manner.

1. Coin or Credit Button turns on Relay S. S stays on for one cycle of the Score Motor.

2. S turns on R, as usual, and causes the drop target banks to be reset. S also turns on A, which is an interlock type relay. A holds on the Motor as long as it's on (off at Step 8 below).

3. A turns on Z, which is a conventional relay but a subsidiary to A in a sense, because it stays on as long as A is on. (See 13H on the schematic.)

4. Z does some actual work. The first thing it does is feed Motor 1A pulses to the score reels, to run each one around to zero.

5. Once all four score reels are at zero, the V relay goes on.

6. The combination of Z on, V on, and W off allows Motor 1A pulses to be fed to the Subtract Ball Count Unit coil. Thus, if someone pulled the plug mid-game, the Ball Count is run down to zero regardless of where it was.

7. Once the Ball Count is at zero (and Z is on), Relay W can be turned on, but it is only turned on during a certain point mid-cycle on the Score Motor, which point is determined by whether the 3-ball or 5-ball option has been chosen.

8. W feeds power to the Score Motor and feeds pulses to the Add Ball Count Unit coil. At the last of the pulses, it activates the A Reset coil, thus "turning off" the A interlock relay (more precisely, setting it to the not-currently-resetting state). With A off, Z goes off.

9. All the switches on the right-side rail (see 11I on the schematic) are now set up so that the ball in the Ball Return will cause Relay O to go on.

10. O causes the ball to be served up, but V is still on, suppressing the Trough Switch from stepping the Ball Count Unit.

11. V finally goes off when any one of the score reels steps away from zero.
The above omits some details about activities being suppressed by various switches, tilt being cleared, etc.
.................David Marston

#4 1 year ago

Hi Howard,
Thanks so much for the information. The W relay make/break was cleaned but did not cause power to be directed to the Subtract coil. I followed the sequence provided by Dave Marston but can’t visually picture it on the schematic.

Could you highlight the pathway for the W coil activation in a return email if you get a chance, similar to what you provided for the Subtract coil.
Thanks Howard. Hope all is well in Boulder CO.
Steve

#5 1 year ago

The is the activating circuit for the Add Ball Count Unit relay (W) when Gold Strike is set for 5 balls. The activating circuit when set for 3 balls is slightly different. And the hold circuit is different too.

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#6 1 year ago

Thanks David and Howard. Was able to trace the startup circuits. Determined that the 4 Reset Switches which should be closed might be the issue. Are these located on the individual score reels?

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#7 1 year ago
Quoted from Steve_B:

Thanks David and Howard. Was able to trace the startup circuits. Determined that the 4 Reset Switches which should be closed might be the issue. Are these located on the individual score reels?
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