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Gottlieb Genesis restoration!


By Menthelm

11 days ago



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#1 11 days ago

Just started this thread to document with pictures and info about my restoration of my first pin! My wife and I are very excited to get this pin and get it looking the best we can.

This was a very solid #Genesis to begin with. I want to say 90% working...maybe 95%. Had a few bulbs blown that we changed(going to replace every bulb with a new one when my order arrives.)

There were a few flashers that still wouldn't work. All the ones in the back box would not work. Ended up being the resistor had a wire loose. Resoldered the wire and they work flawlessly. The flashers under the right ramp wouldn't work and that also was a wire loose on that resistor.

At first the reveal would not work. Lights would come on but not the motor for the reveal. Then all of a sudden it did work... I believe that the solenoid was bound up somehow. Might have bumped it when pulling up the playfield. Who knows lol. Works everytime now. Going to pick up some sewing machine oil to lube it up.

I also noticed that only one pop bumper was scoring but they were all working. Looked at the bottom of the playfield and noticed that someone had broken off 3 of the 4 scoring leaf switches.

Of course like everyone elses #Genesis my ramps are broken. Ordered new ones from Freeplay40 and my new clear ramps should be here anytime. Thanks again!

Ordered rubber kit, new pinballs, light bulbs, and the 3 pop bumper switches. Everything should be in within the next day or two.

#2 11 days ago

I'm going to post before and after pictures through the process. The playfiled and cabinet is dirty. We are going to remove as much as we can from the playfield. Then clean and wax. Clean all plastics and posts.

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#3 11 days ago

Please no sideways pictures

#4 11 days ago

Almost forgot. The playfield plexi has a small crack beside one of the screws. If you zoom in on the last pic you can see it. Going to try to glue it for now... I contacted Pam at Pinbits to see if she can make me a replacement as they are out of stock at the moment.

#5 11 days ago
Quoted from transprtr4u:

Please no sideways pictures

Sorry. I'll fix them when I am off work. I couldn't figure out how to rotate them on my phone.

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#8 10 days ago

Received my order from The Pinball Wizard today! Rubber ring kit, a pack of light bulbs, and of course new pinballs. Get to start working on this today. Removing everything off the playfield then clean and wax.

My clear ramps from freeplay40 have been delayed by USPS for some reason. Should have been here yesterday, but still no update as to when they are to be delivered. We are really excited to see these and get them installed.

I'll be uploading some pics after we get everything off the playfield before cleaning & waxing and then after pics. Hopefully with the new ramps installed lol. I'm sure Freeplay40 still loves seeing his ramps in everyones pins.

#9 10 days ago
Quoted from Menthelm:

Received my order from The Pinball Wizard today! Rubber ring kit, a pack of light bulbs, and of course new pinballs. Get to start working on this today. Removing everything off the playfield then clean and wax.
My clear ramps from freeplay40 have been delayed by USPS for some reason. Should have been here yesterday, but still no update as to when they are to be delivered. We are really excited to see these and get them installed.
I'll be uploading some pics after we get everything off the playfield before cleaning & waxing and then after pics. Hopefully with the new ramps installed lol. I'm sure Freeplay40 still loves seeing his ramps in everyones pins.

Lot of USPS mail has slowed greatly. Coronavid 19 is to blame , not as many staff working...

#10 8 days ago
Quoted from chad:

Lot of USPS mail has slowed greatly. Coronavid 19 is to blame , not as many staff working...

Yeah... It's all good though. cliffy is making me some ramp protectors and entrance ramps for my new freeplay40 clear ramps, and I will be waiting to get those before installing the ramps. So they get here when they do.

#11 8 days ago

Update: Tore down playfield last night. We cleaned and waxed everything and got it all back together. If I were to give any advice on this section it would be pictures pictures pictures. There were a few places we had to really figure out which post went where with what fastener. Changed out all bulbs before repopulating. Found out we were missing 3 posts.

Have blue pop bumper skirts, bodies, and caps coming. Noticed the switch for the reveal motor had the end broken off. A new one ordered. Just some odds and ends stuff coming in the mail and this pin is going to look awesome.

We could have done a better job of cleaning and actually buffed it. We wanted to get it done in one night this time, and we were a bit nervous as this is our first pin. I plan on stripping down the playfield again at a later time to give it a really good cleaning, waxing, and buffing. For now we are very pleased with the results.

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#12 8 days ago

Looked pretty nice to begin with and now shines. Nice game.

#13 8 days ago

Thanks thatsakicker We bought it from a guy that got it in a package deal. Said he had to purchase 6 pins to get the 4 he wanted so this one sat for a while in his storage area. It was dirty when he got it.

#14 7 days ago

Got the last piece I needed to complete this pin. Just ordered the new playfield window. Shout out to ven for this! Thanks again!

#15 5 days ago

Got my new ramps from freeplay40 today! They look great! Thanks again. I have to wait to install them until I receive the ramp protectors from cliffy.

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Also got my new pop bumper switches installed. Seems to me that a shady operator owned this pin. Three of the four pop bumper switch assemblies had the scoring part of the switch broke off so that the pin didn't score as much. Plus there was a few mini posts removed (I have them on order) that made it so the pinball got stuck in a couple places. You had to tilt the machine in order to get the pinball unstuck... which was set so it was very easy to tilt.

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#16 18 hours ago

Got more done today! Pulled out the Control Board (A3) and replaced a transistor to fix the light for drop target 3 so now all lights are working.

Got the new blue pop bumpers installed. As you can see from previous photos that they were not from a Genesis. Have no idea if they were even Gottlieb or not. Now it has brand new ones that are the style from the Genesis but in blue. Really love how they look! Also replaced the t-molding around the back box. Looks so much better than the old cracked stuff.

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Got the new playfield window installed that ven made. Looks great and really appreciate the work you do. Fit perfect.

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It's coming along nicely. I am really enjoying this pin. Waiting on my parts from cliffy to install the new ramps and that is going to make this look so much better.

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Also have the under the playfield graphics coming sometime soon from cooperscooter If you have a genesis and yours looks messed up then check his reproduction out. Looks like he made it from some thick paper backed styrofoam. Seems real solid.

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Hope he doesn't mind me posting his picture here. Check him out if you need one.

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#17 12 hours ago

Here is, what i did with mine. I liked the idea to transform the pin back to the roots

New Translite, Topper, Cabinet-Decals, Target-stickers = Metropolis.

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#18 10 hours ago
Quoted from Menthelm:

Got more done today! Pulled out the Control Board (A3) and replaced a transistor to fix the light for drop target 3

Can you show me on the schematic where this is? I’ve never got the number 2 light for the drops to work.

Thanks!

#19 10 hours ago
Quoted from Menthelm:

Got the new blue pop bumpers installed. As you can see from previous photos that they were not from a Genesis. Have no idea if they were even Gottlieb or not.

They are from Time Warp. Williams game.

#20 6 hours ago
Quoted from Metengo:

Here is, what i did with mine. I liked the idea to transform the pin back to the roots
New Translite, Topper, Cabinet-Decals, Target-stickers = Metropolis.
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Looks pretty cool! I want to make a custom topper too but we actually like the translight like it is. Lol I told my wife it looks like the start of a funny joke really. A mad scientist, a hooker, and a dwarf walk into a bar....

#21 6 hours ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

Can you show me on the schematic where this is? I’ve never got the number 2 light for the drops to work.
Thanks!

Sorry. I work nights and just woke up lol. I'm working on it and I'll post the pics in a few when I get back to my computer desk. For some reason my phone won't let me rotate pictures but I can do it fine on my pc. For some reason pinside rotates all my images and when I edit the photo on my phone amd rotate it...then pinside doesn't rotate it. It's odd lol

#22 6 hours ago

Yeah they really need to fix that. It’s been an issue for a while.

#23 6 hours ago

Genesis was my first pin as well and these pics bring back a lot of good memories with that game. Looking good!

#24 6 hours ago

This is where you'll find the wiring for all your lamps, solenoids, resistors, ect ect.
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I've blown up the section where it refers to the drop target lights. Notice that for drop target 2 is lamp L10.
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Then refer to the control board schematic.
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Here is a close-up of the section for the drop target lamps. L10 is the part you want to look at. R11 and Q11 is what control that lamp.
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This is the layout of the board. I rotated the image so that it should be the same orientation as the board in the back box. I marked the two locations on the pic.
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Here are close-ups of those two sections. Again I rotated them for correct orientation.
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amazon.com link »
that's a link to the resistors I ordered. MPSA13 silicon NPN transistor.
Hope this helps and you get it working. If you would like I can send you the original photos if you don't have the manual. You can zoom way in on the pics and it's really clear. PM me your email address if you want me to send them to you.

#25 5 hours ago
Quoted from remf:

Genesis was my first pin as well and these pics bring back a lot of good memories with that game. Looking good!

Thank you! We are really enjoying it. This is our first pin too. I'm going to keep it also. I know that a lot of people get pins and then trade them out or sell to get something else. I'm more of a hold onto it kind of guy lol. Unless I get a pin that I really don't like then it will stay. We really love this pin.. especially the translight. I know a lot of people don't like it, but we tend to like the more oddball stuff.

When we finally get the pin done I am going to post a detailed cost breakdown of everything we fixed and replaced.

#26 5 hours ago
Quoted from Metengo:

Here is, what i did with mine. I liked the idea to transform the pin back to the roots
New Translite, Topper, Cabinet-Decals, Target-stickers = Metropolis.
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Where did you purchase the Maria statue? I want to make a topper for ours.

#27 5 hours ago
Quoted from Menthelm:

Where did you purchase the Maria statue? I want to make a topper for ours.

It was like this one https://en.todocoleccion.net/figures-dolls-mcfarlane/figura-metropolis-fritz-lang-maria-by-silent-screamers-mezco~x197592877

Not expensive, but fits perfect.

Mabe you find one to buy in USA? Ebay maybe?

#28 5 hours ago
Quoted from Menthelm:

This is where you'll find the wiring for all your lamps, solenoids, resistors, ect ect.
[quoted image]
I've blown up the section where it refers to the drop target lights. Notice that for drop target 2 is lamp L10.
[quoted image]
Then refer to the control board schematic.
[quoted image]
Here is a close-up of the section for the drop target lamps. L10 is the part you want to look at. R11 and Q11 is what control that lamp.
[quoted image]
This is the layout of the board. I rotated the image so that it should be the same orientation as the board in the back box. I marked the two locations on the pic.
[quoted image]
Here are close-ups of those two sections. Again I rotated them for correct orientation.
[quoted image][quoted image]
amazon.com link »
that's a link to the resistors I ordered. MPSA13 silicon NPN transistor.
Hope this helps and you get it working. If you would like I can send you the original photos if you don't have the manual. You can zoom way in on the pics and it's really clear. PM me your email address if you want me to send them to you.

Perfect. Thank you!

#29 3 hours ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

Perfect. Thank you!

You're very welcome. Need any more help let me know.

#30 3 hours ago
Quoted from Metengo:

It was like this one https://en.todocoleccion.net/figures-dolls-mcfarlane/figura-metropolis-fritz-lang-maria-by-silent-screamers-mezco~x197592877
Not expensive, but fits perfect.
Mabe you find one to buy in USA? Ebay maybe?

I will check into it. Thanks!

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