It's a fun game, but keep in mind it is Black Hole without the lower pf. The art is nice looking. I would pick one up someday but probably not for $1400.

I like mine. Eclipse has no speech and I think it's much harder than Black Hole. I've never flipped the score on Eclipse but I have several times on BH. Is the one you're looking at in a James Bond cabinet (a kit conversion) or the correct purple one?

Hm, I would like to see/know where he got his information from. Never heard that one before. As far as I know, the only factory made games came with the purple cabinets and any James Bond cabinets that had Eclipse playfields and backglasses were conversions on route.

It has some of the same rules as Black Hole with regards to getting multi-ball. Hit the 4 yellow stationary targets on the right and then get the ball into the lower right saucer to trap it. Then you need to hit the 4 stationary targets left/center of the playfield with the next ball to light the upper ball trap (same spot to sent the ball down to the lower playfield on Black Hole). Then you have send the ball up there and plunging the next ball onto the playfield starts multi-ball. That's where the rules change.

While you're in 3 ball multi, everything on the playfield scores 3X. When you lose one ball, the playfield scores 2X. All drop targets add to the bonus IIRC. The play is fast because of the obstructions in the center of the playfield. You have less time to react to a ball rebounding back at you.

To get the bonus 5X scoring, you have to start by sending the ball into the lower left saucer, this gives you 2X. Then you have to knock down all the drop targets in order, starting with the 3 drop targets in the middle right of the playfield (3X). The 4 drop targets on the right then give you 4X. The 5 drop targets on the upper left give you 5X.

I forget how you get extra ball.

There's a lot going on and things can get too busy for some players to follow. I think that's partially why there isn't a big following for this game. That, and the sounds aren't that great, IMHO, they don't really match the art/theme. Still, that said, it's a keeper for me and I play it a lot when it's set up.

I think you could spend a little more($200-$300) and find yourself a quality Data East machine that will keep you challenged and interested much longer than Eclipse.

Heck for $1000 you should be able to pick a a decent Black Hole.

just get a BH. much cooler.

I find that to be quite false. Go through the guides, do all of the updates and ground mods and it becomes a rock solid player. You would have to do it with the Eclipse anyway.

Yep, I agree too, there's a lot of good info in those guides. The Eclipse is just a kit in a James Bond cabinet, go for a Black Hole if possible (I have both) and do all the mods including the upkicker mod. Eclipse is harder to play but the Black Hole is more fun with a group of people.

Is this Aaron that's selling?

Hm, a Black Hole was listed for sale yesterday in MI by Aaron on RGP for the same price or best offer.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/browse_thread/thread/8d501803ed73b260?hl=en# Here's the link if you want to look into it.

Did you ever buy the Black Hole or Eclipse?

According to his game list and wish list, nope. I'll have a Black Hole for sale real soon now.

Steve

I would like that eclipse... if you pass on it LMK thanks

Gerry, that post was over a year old, I wonder who got it by now.

Steve

Oh, i didnt notice that..Dee-Da-Dee !

I dont know.. wish it was me !

I think that was plenty cheap !