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Gottlieb coinbox doesn't fit in an Gottlieb machine. Huh?

By ForceFlow

9 years ago


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#1 9 years ago

I have a 1978 Gottlieb Sinbad, and I just bought what I thought was a coin box from the same era.

The box fits in the cabinet, but unfortunately, because of the way the handle sticks out on the front, the coin door will not close. The back of the coin door's return slot bumps against the coin box handle.

So, I'm thinking the problem is one of three things:
1) It's simply the wrong type of coin box.
2) The cabinet's bottom may have been replaced at some point, and the brace across the cabinet that the coin box sits in front of might have been moved.
3) It's the wrong coin door, or an incorrect part on the coin door.

The coin box measures 11" wide. It measures 8-1/4" without the handle, and 9" with the handle. It's 3-1/4" high.

The distance between the cabinet brace and the inside face of the cabinet is 9-1/4".

Does anyone know what might be wrong here?

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#4 9 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

Looks like it's from an older EM.
LTG : )™

If this is the wrong box, what might be the correct coin box for an early solid state machine?

#6 9 years ago
Quoted from Darcy:

I have measured the 3 EM Gottliebs I have and the distance from the metal locking bar on the wood cross member to the inside of the coin door opening is 9 5/8th inches. The handle is exactly like my coin box. The box should drop right in an EM Gottlieb. Measure your coin box area.
Those early SS pins are similar in some ways to EM pins. This coin area must be different.

Ok, removed the coin box and re-measured to match what you were measuring to get a more accurate measurement.

From the locking bar to the lip of the coin door is 9-3/8"

There seems to be a 1/4" difference between the machines you measured and the one I have. It doesn't appear as though the wooden brace across the cabinet has been moved. There's a deep notch in the cabinet sides where it is inserted.

The back of the coin door's coin return plate sticks 3/4" into the cabinet.

The grime at the bottom of the cabinet leaves a shadow that is 8-1/4" deep, which is the same depth as the coin box I just acquired.

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#10 9 years ago

Thanks for taking the time to post the photos

On my machine, the strip of padding makes contact with the handle. And the bottom of the handle is just about level with the lip of the frame of the coin door.

It looks like the handle on your coin box might be sitting lower on the box.

On my box, the bottom of the handle is 1-5/8" from the bottom of the bin, and the handle itself is 3/4" high.

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#12 9 years ago
Quoted from pdman:

That's your issue, the handle. My handle bottom is ~ 3/4" above the box bottom. Top of the handle is 1 9/16".
So you need to move the handle down so the box will fit in the Sinbad.
My Handle looks like a couple of spot welds on each side.

Now that I see comparison photos, yep, it sure looks like that's the problem.

These handles have some sort of rivets. I'd rather not modify it and leave holes in the box.

I'm hoping I might be able to find a box on ebay or some other place that has parts available.

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#16 9 years ago

There's been two different kinds I've seen so far.

The ones for EM machines have a handle with a single rivet on each side, the handle is placed higher, and the cover slides off.

The ones for SS machines have a handle with two rivets on each side, the handle is placed lower, and the cover lifts up.

The bins themselves have the same dimensions--it's only the height of the handle that seems to vary.

I think I saw one or two pop up on ebay recently.

#18 9 years ago

Huh...interesting. Maybe the one you have is a pre-1970s model?

Multiple models certainly makes things difficult. Especially since I haven't seen any good documentation on coin boxes anywhere.

Might be helpful to start documenting these on pinwiki or something.

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#32 9 years ago
Quoted from wayner:

This appears to be another variation on what I understood to be cash box design. In this ebay listing at pic 11 the cash box lid does not slide but is located in the cash box by bent tabs although the cash box has slide provision. I have not previously seen this type of lid.
ebay.com link » Gottlieb Pinball Machine Vintage Cash Coin Box With Lid

Yep, looks like it is an EM box with an SS cover--The box is designed for covers that slide in, the cover is designed for boxes where the cover drops in.

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