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Gottlieb classic "King of Diamonds" turns 50!


By jrpinball

2 years ago



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#1 2 years ago

Wow! Fifty years ago this month, the Gottlieb plant was cranking out this classic pin. Happy Birthday "King of Diamonds"!

#2 2 years ago

Happy birthday! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks about pinball birthdays. Kind of makes me want to start a thread. (only for the ones that have a new age that ends in a 0 or 5, of course)

Also, just realized the decagon reel turned 50 in November of last year with "Dancing Lady". Very cool.

#3 2 years ago

Same with Diamond Jack. Maybe the two best pins of 1967, but there are some contenders..

#4 2 years ago

Looks like Beatniks turns 50 this month too.

#5 2 years ago

Happy Birthday!

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#6 2 years ago

50 Years of greatness and many more to come.
Thank you Gottlieb.

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#7 2 years ago

I'll have to push this one up in the restoration queue to celebrate. Looking every bit it's fifty years. It was used as an ashtray at some point, as you can see from the bottom left picture.

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#8 2 years ago

Yes I currently own pieces of this game, pf, head, bottom board but the cab fell apart. One day I'll get it glued together with a doner cab. Will need a Herb Silvers overlay...

#9 2 years ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

50 Years of greatness and many more to come.
Thank you Gottlieb.

I am glad that even after the long tenure of Gottlieb as a company and its eventual demise that these machines will exist as long as people want them to, especially the EMs (no expirable parts). Thankful.

#10 2 years ago

I just started cleaning up a King of Diamonds last night.
I did not realize it was 50....
I should have- it shows all 50 years!

#11 2 years ago
Quoted from spiroagnew:

I'll have to push this one up in the restoration queue to celebrate. Looking every bit it's fifty years. It was used as an ashtray at some point, as you can see from the bottom left picture.

How's it smell? As expected?

#12 2 years ago

The availability of a reproduction playfield for King of Diamonds would be nice...

#13 2 years ago

I remember the first time I played a King of Diamonds. It was at the Casino Pier Arcade on Seaside Hts. boardwalk back in 1967, when I was 11 years old. It was my favorite machine to play in a line up of near 50 EM games located at that arcade.

The picture below is from near 20 years ago when I completed my restoration on my KoD and was staged in the garage before being brought down into the basement game room.

Today I have 40+ EM games in my collection and its still one of my favorite games to play. Long live the KING!

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#14 2 years ago
Quoted from PinFun:

The availability of a reproduction playfield for King of Diamonds would be nice...

for now all we have is this overlay

http://mad-amusements.com/product.php?id_product=373

#16 2 years ago

ken i saved a KoD that had a HAND painted playfield, it was done poorly and to top it off the brushed shellac over the whole thing. i tried everything to remove the crap. no luck so i used the overlay. it did not look bad but i am NO fan of overlays. i tried for about a year to find A pf without luck. i now have another with a nice pf but has a poor cabinet
i would of used a worn pf if i could of found one. i would get a repro if wade did it. i wonder if anyone else would?

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#17 2 years ago

While I wouldn't send him $1m cash, I've never had an issue with Mad Amusements in the US outside of a few teeth with cavities. Used to order a lot from him.

#18 2 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

ken i saved a KoD that had a HAND painted playfield, it was done poorly and to top it off the brushed shellac over the whole thing. i tried everything to remove the crap. no luck so i used the overlay. it did not look bad but i am NO fan of overlays. i tried for about a year to find A pf without luck. i now have another with a nice pf but has a poor cabinet
i would of used a worn pf if i could of found one. i would get a repro if wade did it. i wonder if anyone else would?

Did you clear coat over the overlay?

#19 2 years ago
Quoted from pinhead52:

Did you clear coat over the overlay?

no i did not. but i had intended to then i saw that it was not always a sure thing that it would take over the mylar so i decided forgo the 2PAC

#20 2 years ago

If someone is going to go through the trouble of making an overlay, they should at least try to get the colors right. Most "KOD"s have faded playfields, especially the coral color towards the outlanes. The overlay was obviously made based on a very faded original.

#21 2 years ago

Pinball Resource is out of stock on the KoD repro plastics--just an FYI for all the restorers out there.

They still can be found from a few other sources though, so not all is lost.

#22 2 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Looks like Beatniks turns 50 this month too.

Yeah, now it's just an old hippie!

#23 2 years ago

I turned 50 too...6 years ago...lol.

#24 2 years ago

I think I was about 50 when this game came and went from my collection.

#25 2 years ago

All I need is a birthday cake and a 50 yrs. old candle

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#26 2 years ago

This game was one of the A listers that I figured I had to have, so I eventually got it. I didn't keep it all that long. I've never been much of a roto target fan and that big carousel roto target took up so much playfield space. The cards dropping down in the backbox are fine, but much like Bank A Ball, the player really doesn't notice them all that much.

It's a fine game but it just wasn't a keeper for me. I also played Herb's modern game and I liked that even less than the EM. It sort of looks like an EM, the incorrect cab nonwithstanding, but it just doesn't play like one. I think there's a reason that his idea, which I thought was a sure winner at first, eventually died a quick death. If you're an EM guy, you expect an EM, and the Retro version just isn't one.

#27 2 years ago

Looks like Magic City turned 50 this month too. Happy b-day MC!

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#28 2 years ago

King of Diamonds was the last game with the solid metal chromed posts. After that Pinside was all up in arms because they switched to cheap white plastic posts.

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#29 2 years ago
Quoted from John_I:

King of Diamonds was the last game with the solid metal chromed posts. After that Pinside was all up in arms

Not so. Although the add-a-ball counterpart "Diamond Jack" had plastic posts, and so did "Sing Along" which was released later in the year,
the add-a-ball version of that game, "Melody", had metal posts. The last game with metal posts was 1968's "Palace Guard", although I don't believe all of them were produced with metal posts. They may have exhausted their remaining stock on that run, and then switched exclusively to the white plastic posts.

#30 2 years ago

I figured there might be a few exceptions. Thanks for the trivia answers.

#31 2 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Looks like Magic City turned 50 this month too. Happy b-day MC!

They just don't make them like they use to! "Magic City" is another great playing EM classic. Happy Birthday!

#32 2 years ago

Two of my favorites (KOD and Sing Along) both turn 50 this year!

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I like almost every EM I've ever played, but find myself drawn to 'middle 60's' (1964-1967) games.

#33 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

The last game with metal posts was 1968's "Palace Guard", although I don't believe all of them were produced with metal posts.

My Palace Guard has (original) metal posts. Serial#: 3030

#34 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

If someone is going to go through the trouble of making an overlay, they should at least try to get the colors right. Most "KOD"s have faded playfields, especially the coral color towards the outlanes. The overlay was obviously made based on a very faded original.

All of the overlays pictured so far ( including the one at Mad) appear to be Herb's original version. Which was horribly off as you mentioned. For RetroPinball, I corrected the blue, yellow, peach, and white colors as best I could from a different playfield (under posts). We also moved a couple of holes in the sling shot areas since we used late model hardware.

As far as I know, Herb moved the die cut holes back to original and should be using the newer color pallet now. If you are in need of an overlay, you should check with him.

#35 2 years ago

One of my favorites - 60 years old next month!

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#36 2 years ago
Quoted from CactusJack:

All of the overlays pictured so far ( including the one at Mad) appear to be Herb's original version. Which was horribly off as you mentioned. For RetroPinball, I corrected the blue, yellow, peach, and white colors as best I could from a different playfield (under posts). We also moved a couple of holes in the sling shot areas since we used late model hardware.
As far as I know, Herb moved the die cut holes back to original and should be using the newer color pallet now. If you are in need of an overlay, you should check with him.

Spoke to Herb via email last week. Quoted $250USD shipping included in the lower-48 for a KOD overlay. I didn't inquire if this was the original version or the corrected one. Also has backglasses and plastic sets.

#37 2 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

One of my favorites - 60 years old next month!

Loves me some "Ace High"!

#38 2 years ago
Quoted from SirScott:

My Palace Guard has (original) metal posts. Serial#: 3030

Played one last night. It also had metal posts. I think most do.

#39 2 years ago

Hello all
New to the forum.
I own a King of Diamonds and absolutely love it. Think it is one of the best EM from Gottlieb
I have been trying out of curiosity to find out how much these 60's cost brand new but cant find any info.
If anyone knows would appreciate a reply.

#40 2 years ago
Quoted from jpackowski:

Hello all
New to the forum.
I own a King of Diamonds and absolutely love it. Think it is one of the best EM from Gottlieb
I have been trying out of curiosity to find out how much these 60's cost brand new but cant find any info.
If anyone knows would appreciate a reply.

Yup. "KOD" is one of the best ever. They made plenty of them though. Had it been a low production game, it's value would likely be astronomical in today's collector market.
Back in the day, I'm estimating maybe around $850 for a new one.

#41 2 years ago
Quoted from PinFun:

The availability of a reproduction playfield for King of Diamonds would be nice...

I second that request.

#42 2 years ago

Whats a Diamond Jack 9.5 out of 10 worth?

#43 2 years ago

Does anyone know where to get the original paints for KOD cabinet. I need to touch up a little?

#44 2 years ago
Quoted from jpackowski:

Does anyone know where to get the original paints for KOD cabinet. I need to touch up a little?

The little containers of Testor's model paints match pretty well. If the scratches or gouges are down to the wood, use white paint first, then when it dries, use the yellow or orange colors. Any white areas that need to be touched up may be tricky to match depending on how yellowed the white paint has become over the years.

#45 2 years ago
Quoted from pinaholic:

Whats a Diamond Jack 9.5 out of 10 worth?

What someone is willing to pay for it, but if it's exceptionally nice, you could expect to get at least $1200-1500 or more in my opinion, especially in the NY metro area.

#46 2 years ago

King of Diamonds has had many followers, and owners that really enjoyed the pin.
Retro Pinball in 2010, built new King of Diamonds pins. They assembled 50 games, according to IPDB. Although it was a hybrid EM-SS pin. There is one at the PHoF.

#47 2 years ago

Here's a pf shot of my kod.it's rough but plays great.

Ted

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#48 2 years ago
Quoted from novaguy:

Here's a pf shot of my kod.it's rough but plays great.
Ted

That's a "King of Hearts"!

#49 2 years ago

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#50 2 years ago
Quoted from velcroman:

Diamond Jack and Subway my two favorite 60s games by far.

Good taste. A couple of mine too. I like to hit the Flipper Pool once
in awhile also..

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