(Topic ID: 257150)

Gottlieb chimes in my Bally


By mrbanjo

3 months ago



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#1 3 months ago

Since I could never get my Bally chimes in my Nip It to sound right ( rebuild kit made not much difference), I decided to try a set of Gottlieb chimes I had layin around.
Had to trim the edges of the plastic on the Bally coils to fit in Gottlieb bracket but just use the Gottlieb coil sleeves and plungers.
Sound is awesome!

#2 3 months ago

While on this topic - as I have no reference - my Nip It does not "chime" when I hit the pop bumpers (lit or not lit) and even some of the other side areas where it hits and scores, but no chimes.

Should I have a chime sound when hitting those? If so, which chime bar? (or is it different if the pop's are lit or not?)

Possibly I have a chime coil bad or disconnected and not even know it

#3 3 months ago

Nick -
Just guessing, but you should have three chime bars - one each for 10, 100, 1000. These should energize whenever the score wheels turn. Find the point relay, and activate it. The player score should index and the chime should sound.

Its possible previous owner disconnected the chimes - take a close look at the chime coils and see if the power wire was lifted from the tab common to the three coils. Also, its possible there is a plug for the chime unit that is unplugged - I don't remember if Bally chimes were "modular" or not.

#4 3 months ago
Quoted from Billc479:

Nick -
Just guessing, but you should have three chime bars - one each for 10, 100, 1000. These should energize whenever the score wheels turn. Find the point relay, and activate it. The player score should index and the chime should sound.
Its possible previous owner disconnected the chimes - take a close look at the chime coils and see if the power wire was lifted from the tab common to the three coils. Also, its possible there is a plug for the chime unit that is unplugged - I don't remember if Bally chimes were "modular" or not.

Aha! Billc479 to the rescue! Yes, have all 3 chimes, just wasn't getting anything out of the pops, so it could be one or two aren't working (Now that I think of it I "think" im only hearing one chime..maybe two? This will be my evening hunt tonight.

I'll report back on this one!

#5 3 months ago

I like Gottlieb chimes in Williams, but those Bally chimes should sound sweet too if they work correctly.

#6 3 months ago

Aha! Checked and it was my 10 point chime not working (among other things..lol) but found one of my slings contacts were together, so adjusted that, so it was then scoring 10 points but the chime was still not working. Turned out one of the switches needed cleaned/adjusted on the 10 point relay, so that is now working - so hearing three (3) chimes now is perfect!

Question - my "red" pop bumpers (top and bottom ones) - the top one will register 10 points & chime, but nothing when lit for the 100 points. The bottom one will not register (add points) or chime - for 10 or 100 points. They both "pop" like they should tho?? What's up there?

#7 3 months ago
Quoted from phil-lee:

I like Gottlieb chimes in Williams, but those Bally chimes should sound sweet too if they work correctly.

My Bally chimes in Night Rider sound awesome.

#8 3 months ago
Quoted from Nikrox2:

Aha! Checked and it was my 10 point chime not working (among other things..lol) but found one of my slings contacts were together, so adjusted that, so it was then scoring 10 points but the chime was still not working. Turned out one of the switches needed cleaned/adjusted on the 10 point relay, so that is now working - so hearing three (3) chimes now is perfect!
Question - my "red" pop bumpers (top and bottom ones) - the top one will register 10 points & chime, but nothing when lit for the 100 points. The bottom one will not register (add points) or chime - for 10 or 100 points. They both "pop" like they should tho?? What's up there?

Check the individual relays for the pop bumpers to make sure all the contacts are clean and adjusted proper. I'm fairly sure that this vintage of Bally pins has individual relays for each popper which may even be mounted on the playfield underside.

#9 3 months ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

My Bally chimes in Night Rider sound awesome.

The ones I've played did too. I hope to own NR one day.

#10 3 months ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

Check the individual relays for the pop bumpers to make sure all the contacts are clean and adjusted proper. I'm fairly sure that this vintage of Bally pins has individual relays for each popper which may even be mounted on the playfield underside.

Thanks! Another evening task to look at!

#11 3 months ago

I would start with checking the operation of 1) the top red relay, 2) the bottom red relay, and 3) the lite red relay.

#12 3 months ago

Perfect, thanks !

#13 3 months ago

The chimes in my Nip-It sound great.

#14 3 months ago

Bally SS chimes sound much much sweeter than their Bally EM counterparts.

Compare a rebuilt Captain fantastic chime box with a likewise rebuilt Mata Hari. Difference is night and day. =)

#15 3 months ago

Making progress! Have the 10 point chime now working (as stated earlier) and yes the pop bumper relays are on the underside of the playfield. So cleaned/adjusted (slightly) and now I have both red pop's working as they should (scoring either 10 or 100 when the light is lit) So much better when all 3 chimes are working and the slings and the pops work.

I did notice (before I gave up on it last night late) and it's probably more on my "adjustments" - but when I hit an un-lit pop (or even a sling) it's scoring 100 points not 10. Then, after the pop's are lit - those lit will score 100, while those unlit & the slings then score 10 points as they should.

So somehow I got something backwards or out of whack! lol

And I agree - my MH (SS) and Bobby Orr (SS) have sweeter sounds than the Nip-it or Hang Glider (both EM's) - especially when first starting a game

#16 3 months ago

The SS Bally chime bars are made out of a more substantial metal and seemed to be tuned and "ring" better.
The EM Bally chimes are aluminum I believe sound duller and not tuned nor as musical as their SS brothers.

#17 3 months ago
Quoted from DRDAVE:

The SS Bally chime bars are made out of a more substantial metal and seemed to be tuned and "ring" better.
The EM Bally chimes are aluminum I believe sound duller and not tuned nor as musical as their SS brothers.

The manuals list different winding coils which is the big difference I suspect between SS and EM Bally, I doubt the notoriously cheap manufactures would use a different assembly when there was no reason to do so.

#18 3 months ago

Also, SS chimes are pulsed by the MPU and the length of the pulse signal can make the coil respond very quickly. That quick response makes the note sound 'faster'. That is why the chimes could play a 'tune' (meaning multiple chimes sounds quickly in a row). You could never get that easily with an EM setup.

#19 3 months ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

The manuals list different winding coils which is the big difference I suspect between SS and EM Bally, I doubt the notoriously cheap manufactures would use a different assembly when there was no reason to do so.

The assemblies are the same except for the metal chime material. Take out one from each style Bally EM and Bally SS and hold in your hand.
The EM chime metal bars are made of a lighter less substantial metal the the SS version.

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