That sounds normal as that is how my Gottlieb 4 Square Worked with the "Specials".

Ken

yup, that's how my 4 square works as well (as well as my other em's)... ime, that's how almost all em's work... but i'm pretty unfamiliar with aab variants, i'm a "replay" kind of guy...

op when you say "never comes out of tilt"? can you explain that further? are you saying that if you tilt the machine, you can't start another game by pushing the start button? keep in mind that on many (most?) single player em's (including 4 square, and i'm assuming that the "rules" are the same for astro), tilting the machine "ends the game"... you don't just lose the ball in play, it results in a "game over" condition...

^^^

so it shows "tilt" in the backglass, the machine "shuts down" (i.e. doesn't serve another ball), and the ball count remains lit?

we need an aab guy... calling alex... calling alex...

Love Astro! First pin I ever played in a barber shop in Beacon NY on main street with my "pops" . Always loved' the layout and it started a 40 year long hobby! Congrats! ( damn evil robot still haunts my dreams!)~SpOoKy

My Gottlieb Bank Shot AAB was the same as well. Once you light the "Extra Ball" Hole/Lane it would be lit the rest of the game.

Ken

Ken, Bank Shot rule set is kickout holes alternate AAB till the end of that ball, center top lane stays lit until collected.

Sounds like you might want to check your Ball Count Unit. It may need cleaning/adjustment. If you start a game it should start with Ball 5, then count down to 4, 3, 2, 1, Game Over if you did not get an Extra Ball.

Ken

Mine had Both Kickout Holes lit for "WOW", then the number 1 Lane stayed lit until collected, but may not have been correct? Good thing I sold it.

Ken

I'll have to see how my Gottlieb "Sure Shot" Rule set is when I get it.

Ken

My guess goes like this. Based solely on what I have read from others, many old gottliebs show tilt and game over at the same time! If your machine is set to end the game on tilt, (many can be set to only lose ball in play or to end the game based on a specific jumper position) everything that was lit at the time of the tilt will stay lit ball in play number included. The ball count won't reset until you start a new game. Here's how all this makes sense. Your game over light bulb is burned out so it looks like it is just stuck in tilt mode.

I could be completely off, but it would be an easy thing to verify before racking your brain and digging after problems that don't exist.

Hope this helps and you can be on your way to cleaning it up and enjoying.

As for the special lite staying on, I have two "replay" gottlieb wedge heads set up right now and they both behave just like yours. Once you light the special, it stays lit for the rest of the game.

Man, you are fast!

re: plastics... the one below it is the wrong one too...

might be hard to find them, but you could probably get a scan from someone of the correct ones and make them...

OK, on the plastic, you already have one correct one. It is on the left, and it is a mirror image of the one on the right. Copy away.

On the tilt...your game is set up for 3 balls, and it is set up for a penalty of the ball in play plus one more ball. If it tilts on ball one, it is supposed to decrement from 3 to 1 ball to play. If it tilts on ball 2, you are done.

Both adjs are via jones plugs, probably under the PF.

My brothers Capt` Card is the same way. Nudge it a little too much and...