New York, NY
These things should really be called ASS Relays am I right?
They are torture but clean and adjust EVERYTHING. Sometimes I'll increase tension on the return spring by cutting it a little shorter too.
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Quoted from D-Gottlieb:Shortening the spring is not needed in a properly adjusted and cleaned relay. A lot of people do this, and it is never needed. It worked from the factory and will work again.
Far from me to argue with D Gottlieb himself, but sometimes, you gotta do whatever it takes.
Quoted from rolf_martin_062:Hi Pauz21, D-Gottlieb, currieddog, HowardR +
"shortening a retaining spring" (or tightening an retaining spring wound around the axis on a stepper) or other treatment: Seldom - but once in a while a spring needs some work. I remember a weird situation on "Gottlieb Hot Shot" --- Test-Lights mounted, videos made - looooong topic - and in the end: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-many-problems-with-my-gottlieb-hot-shot/page/2#post-4122570 --- see the picture "spring" --- and the picture in post-68 (spring) --- seldom, rare: Sometimes we have to work on a spring. Greetings Rolf
Quoted from HowardR:I'm with d-gottlieb on this one. Shortening the spring isn't needed if you properly clean and adjust the relay.
If it were 1971, I'd agree with you.
The fact is the AX relays and ALL of their components are 40-60 years old now. That's really, really old for stuff that was probably engineered for 5 years of service.
I have completely disassembled AX units, adjusted, and cleaned them, and still had to get a little weird with the return spring to make it operate correct. Stuff wears out, gets harder to work with. Including return springs.
I'll agree, it's the last thing you should do. But sometimes that AX just needs a gentle little push to regain its customary snap.
Quoted from HowardR:You mean the "AS" relay, right? In any case, Pinball Resource has the A8737 springs for $0.65, and the AS relay rebuild kit for $5.
http://www.pbresource.com/relay-GTB.html
Well, I also hate AX relays with a passion, but yes, AS in this case.
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