(Topic ID: 214904)

Gottlieb 80b sound issues

By jecourie

6 years ago



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#1 6 years ago

I recently got a Raven machine with problems. I have most issues ironed out but sound issues remain. Voltages check out good, both cpu's replaced, led stays on, pressing the buttons do nothing. I will attach a sound clip of what it's doing. Any ideas would be appreciated. well I can't figure out how to attach a clip. It makes a constant humming sound with a escalating humming sound that last about 5 or 6 seconds then the original humming remains till I turn it off. Thanks

#2 6 years ago

Back to basics.
Clock pulse working?
Reset circuit working?
Address and Data lines pulsing?
IRQ line pulsing?

There isn't much debug info or process available for those boards.
Marco may have written a test ROM for it...I can't recall.
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1 week later
#3 5 years ago

I've spent a little more time on this issue. I tested the sound board in another machine and it works. I changed z13 on the driver board, the CPU, all Riots, z13, and z27 on the mpu. I get clock signals, reset starts low and goes high address and data lines do pulse. A couple things I noticed If I unplug a3-j5 from the driver board I can get sounds by grounding the sound lines but not with it connected.
Also after about 5 minutes of running with everything connected the machine will start resetting and then stop due to the 5 volts dropping too low, if I unplug the sound board the voltage will stay at 5. Thanks.

#4 5 years ago

It's fixed. Ended up being a bad 7404 at z13on the driver board. That chip was brand new so I didn't figure it would be bad but it was. Thanks.

#5 5 years ago

To avoid this kind of disappointment, I now systematically test all the components I buy. It may seem weird, but we can not have blind trust anymore, regardless of the vendor. For everything that is "logical" components (gates), most EPROM programmers are able to test them.
It takes a little time initially, but then we gain a lot during troubleshooting.

#6 5 years ago

I just got a bad 6532 from Marco...it happens from time to time.

#7 5 years ago
Quoted from noflip95:

To avoid this kind of disappointment, I now systematically test all the components I buy. It may seem weird, but we can not have blind trust anymore, regardless of the vendor.

Yes sir. Good policy. I'm doing this too now that I've had to turn to non-traditional sources for parts.
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Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
http://ChrisHiblerPinball.com/contact
http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

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