That's pinball, JJP and Stern.

For now it doesn't seem to be affecting them. With all the people on Pinside saying they are never buying another NIB, who T F is buying them now? They seem to not even be able to keep up with production.

JJP has produced 2 pins in 5 years that have had to be coded. Now they have another one.

Absolutely ZERO comparison.

To say "JJP is BY FAR offering the best code support in pinball" is so Panzerspeak.

Do you ever take a break without the JJP blinders on? First its non stop toys and now its code huh?

My original point was in reference to the lies and deception of both, but I'll put Jack and JJP out in the lead on that one.

Hardly. They have a tough enough time supporting the two pins they have. It's not from not trying to produce and sell more.

Pinball is hard

Typical dopey comments. Like "the Walking Dud".

Petty and jealous.

Exactly, don't know why they do it.

Gomez and Lyman don't deserve it, nor do the people like us receiving our BM66 pins either.

I doubt Gomez will ever give the 2 week pledge again

Like a pack of jackals ripping apart his poor dead carcass

Where did you play it at Kaneda?

You have a Road Show and Who Dunnit, had an X Files and you are calling this a hunk of junk? lol

So that's not your hunk of junk collection you list?

Whatever you own is a hunk of junk. How do you like that tough guy?

Beautiful. Just in time for unboxing and before I ran out of tissues to wipe all of my code crying tears

That's right, Gomez isn't the one doing the f ing code!

Lyman is great, chill out.

This pin looks phenomenal. Check out GAP stream

Meanwhile, while the shipping company left my BM66LE sitting up in Dallas until I called today I'll have fun on my GBLE update!

Monday will be arrival time!

Until then, chill out and pick up another 12 pack.

There is a long ways to go to integrate 1800 video clips

Hey, that's my motto! Drinking makes everything make more sense

GBLE is great fun. That's the difference between Lyman and Dwight right now. Lyman tapped out TWDLE to greatness.

Don't think Dwight ever will on GBLE but it's still really good

There is no such thing as the Guarantee Code Tooth Fairy Gomez!

Tommy: Let's think about this for a sec, Ted. Why would somebody put a guarantee on a box? Hmmm, very interesting.
Ted Nelson, Customer: Go on, I'm listening.
Tommy: Here's the way I see it, Ted. Guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to feel all warm and toasty inside.
Ted Nelson, Customer: Yeah, makes a man feel good.
Tommy: 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right, Ted?
[chuckles until he sees that Ted is not laughing]
Ted Nelson, Customer: [impatiently] What's your point?
Tommy: The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy; well, we're not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser, and your daughter's knocked up. I seen it a hundred times.
Ted Nelson, Customer: But why do they put a guarantee on the box?
Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of shit. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.
Ted Nelson, Customer: [pause] Okay, I'll buy from you.
Tommy: Well, that's...
Tommy/Richard Hayden: ...What?

Amen

Btw, Gomez is the crazy glue sniffing code guarantor

Wtf, how can you not know Tommy Boy!!!

The code is up your a** of the pin you don't own. Bite on that.

And its awesome. Maybe the Russians stole the code.

Another ignore

I think Keith said he finished WOF but not for the general public because of Stern issues post employment

They can't win either way

What did he say about the progress? Any details on what happened with PF issues

The time is near!

I had fun playing my TWD and GB pins last night, along with putting that phenomenal witch mod into Woz

I'm going to finally install MikeD's AC/DC video screen mod this weekend.

Between that and an excellent BM66 update, along with many beers, it should be a fun weekend

Heard same thing. No pro will limit the appeal overall but a code drop before TPF will be the real coming out party for this sweet shooter, great theme, awesome art and unique layout

I won't be at TPF unfortunately. Have high level baseball drafts this weekend with my dad!

I can see why some people would be upset too. Clearly a lot of people love to find anything and everything to bitch and complain about.

As a buyer of BM66LE, we all knew code was early and we all know that Lyman will make it great. How long it takes to happen, nobody really knows, it will be done when its done.

As for what Gomez said, so F ing what, Lyman could have lived up to the literal meaning of what he said and put out an update EVERY tuesday, even if it meant adding ONE callout. Happy then?

I think there are more substantial things to whine about and if you don't like the progress of the code then buy an Aerosmith while you are waiting, wtf.

The only people it matters to are drunk people or whiners.

Edit: it matters more to non fun loving drinkers who can't pull the stick out of their butt

What is this 3rd grade? Nvm. It is

The ONLY reason DI will be delivered with good code, not finished, is because they can't announce a pin and then produce it 30 days later. And they only get one pin out every 2-3 yrs

It was a f ing marathon getting Woz done and a mini marathon with TH

No excuse. You don't get to be a rookie 6 yrs running

Hopefully the next theme will be desirable because like Lyman, I'd have ZERO concern with Keith and Ted

Option A - Give me the game now and spend the next yr making the code great while enjoying the progression ala TWD

Option B - Show the pin but don't release it for a year until code is totally finished.

B is asinine imo.

Nobody has a gun to your head to buy it now

It's YOUR choice. Buy now OR wait

How hard is that?

Well said, I'm with you, that's why i have zero hesitation in buying a fun Stern pin knowing Lyman is coding it from day one.

For the rest of the people that get aggravated by it or can't handle it, its very simple, WAIT and buy the pin when the code gets completed.

It blows my mind that people can buy a new pin from Stern knowing full well its going to take a while to get the code done and then whine and complain about it after the fact.

It appears AS is a sleeper and already has good code. GB was the same way. TWD was not.

Fun times, great pins, enjoy the ride!

If they couldn't keep the flow of new pins going there wouldn't be any pin makers

JJP still hasn't finished TH code after all these years

RZ, Aliens etc

Just the way it is. Have a beer and chill

Dude you need to drink a glass of half full something. Non stop whining isn't good for you

Well that we agree on

Yeah I don't get any right ramp issue. Nada

Now I did have the turn table from hell

Anybody have the topper plug in schematic. Wife must have thrown away instructions!

Thanks Mark! I appreciate it. Take your time, getting ready to watch a great game hopefully.

Code drop is coming tomorrow

I don't, I'm just thinking positive thoughts! Easter bunny gift.

There are lots of the latter here.

It's not Vireland's game but the OP that he helps.

Here's hoping for an Easter bunny substantial code drop!

Star Wars is a Ritchie pin and the most overrated pin designer BY FAR!!!!

Left ramp, right ramp, spinner with a variation of something no thanks.

Borg is king now.

Sorry Odiner, Lyman is working on my BM66 now. He ain't working on any EM's, that's for sure!

TWD is the best ever.

Ritchie is the king of nothing new imho

I F ing HATE Xmen, I think its the worst pinball machine i've ever played. The oversized Wolvie head and left side of the PF is awful.

He fixed Wolvie with WW on TWD.

I expect another lame ass nothing burger with Ritchie and Star Wars where they will sacrifice the artwork, clip art BS because Disney says so, for a GOT like pin.

Did they do this on purpose? They know I'm very weak minded!

Had to get an ASLE to feed my pinball need

Positive vibes. Coming this afternoon!

Woooohooo!

Awesome baby!

Gotta load it up now.

At .71 this will be a loaded masterpiece when Lyman is done.

Crap, I'm thinking on going back to work to download this thing high speed. Home internet speed blows!!!

I'm at 3 hrs. Canceled it!

So manana it is for me

Beer in hand. Several in the ice box.

Flipping ASLE while i'm loading up new BM66 code!

F yeah. Getting a tingle down my leg.

I don't think it's actually his pin.

I think he has said he gets these pins ready for route for the owner?

Anyhow, i don't mind his comments even when the record is broken.

Because we all know the truth

You said it. This is pinball and maybe it's surprising since it's coming from George

If it was Jack, no one would even give it a second thought, par for the course

It bears repeating. Lyman will make it great.

That's why we bought from day one.

I'm sure the .71 was a F you to all of us.

Although I really love the Bat turn mode it does have a LONG ways to go and if you bought this game without patience then i don't know what to tell you.

I'm gonna do the same thing. Play my other pins until we get much more significant code update.

It's because we all knew, or least most us, that it would be a long slog on getting the code done when buying this pin

Chill out. No need to be hyper focused

It's Lyman

Vireland isnt fooling me, he loves BM66 and wants to keep playing it at home while the code updates!

After the next code drop he will be saying "ummm not quite ready yet for route, needs a few more updates before I can let it go"

Communication from all pinball people is beyond stupid bad

JJP just now puts out a trailer for DI, granted it's just now shipping but come on

Listening to Franchi interview it's clear a rush job was done to slot BM66 in as 25th anniversary.

Lyman got TWD advanced fairly quickly

I'm sure the LCD video adds major time to the process

You gotta be kidding me right?

Pay attention to the above statement. That is all we care about.

Once again, while frustrating, we all knew it was going to take time and the end result would be great.

That's hysterical. You use zero "critical thinking" when evaluating JJP and DI. Very hypocritical and biased analysis.

Plain and simple.

Once again, you can't be F ing serious, then again, you've only been around here for 2 years.

Jersey Jack is the king of half truths.

That said, we all know what's what. And yet you still haven't figured it out have you?

It doesn't matter one IOTA what Gomez says, its not even your pinball machine, we all bought it because of Lyman etc. Get it? Doubt it.