It's a shame there was budget cuts and behind the scenes problems with the series that could have been such a great scene and way to wrap up the show in its last season

Yep she's in villain multiball. They all break out of gaol...a pretty cool scene

Well, let's hope that's not the only appearance of Batgirl that we see. There are certainly far better clips to use. I really want to see an "Enter Batgirl" mode with the transformation, hopping on the Batgirl cycle and kicking some villain butt.

Maybe someone can do some clever editing and we could see Batgirl take on Julie Newmar's Catwoman - talk about a purrrfect cat fight ...

Cool! If she's sneaked into game play already, I have confidence that we'll see more of her. Hopefully she'll get a full mode similar to Bat Turn.

I wonder if a special Batgirl mode would be in the LE/SLE code only or maybe triggered by Season 3.

I thought code is identical across Prem, LE & SLE? Definitely some sort of Batgirl mode would be great.

Yeah I just finished watching season 3 (must have missed it as a kid as I don't remember it at all) but I must admit I didn't like the change from Julie Newmar to Eartha Kitt, plus Eartha is not seen anywhere on the game in regards to art so that would ruin the cohesiveness imo.

Either way after .71 I am genuinely excited to see where Lyman takes us with the code after adding a mode that is not on the factory rule card its given me a feeling he could be packing this game with little surprises and modes like he did with TWD and MET

It currently is identical code, but that doesn't mean what happens on every game type is identical. The SLE's supposedly have a special call out coded for the owner (presumably based on serial number or other value triggered by a hardware key), so the code could easily have a "If game is LE or SLE, allow special mode".

Hopefully, she's in all versions, or else there will be great weeping and gnashing of teeth. It makes sense for the LE to include her, after all, the LE is kind of the Batgirl edition, given her prominent placement on the playfield, translight, and head sides. The SLE should get something special, but I suspect that it will be callout focused. If Stern ever wants to sell more SLEs they should really hit a home room on whatever coded special feature(s) they eventually build into SLE games, otherwise that ship has sailed.

Lol. Gotham City insured for $10 Million!

"Holy Underwritten Metropolis."

Agree with all of this. I'd add to it:

- Better use of the playfield TV. How good would it be if Villain Vision actually showed vision of the villains taunting Batman/player?
- Riddler footage.
- Penguin capturing footage.
- Better villain capturing footage (smoke coming out of a hole for Riddler and Joker’s foot stepping on an explosive = lame).
- Commissioner Gordon announcing villain as (or before) bat phone rings.
- More modes!!

Really excited for what this pinny could become.

I actually don't like the idea of having model specific play features but I can see it justified in this case because of the substantive price increase over the normal Pro/Premium/LE model.

And since Batman 66 LE is actually limited - a couple hundred, not a thousand+ (and, as you say, kind of the Batgirl edition), it does make some sense.

This was originally pitched as the main feature/use of the Villain Vision playfield LCD from Gomez and part of the gameplay for BM66 so this part should get added soon, which I'm most looking forward to as it sold me on the game.

There is also plenty of footage from the show of the villains taunting and insulting the dynamic duo to use and really make a fully fleshed out immersive feature throughout the villain modes.

Would be ideal if it could show each villain taunting you as you battle them, but the limitation of the turntable is that the TV cant be facing the player during a villain mode. It would have to be when no villains are active. It could be that after you hit a particular villain shot when trying to qualify them, that villain taunts you until you hit another villain.

The turntable behaviour could change as the code develops, bat phone obviously starts modes and that would probably remain the same as it's the narrative in the show. But couldn't the villain modes then have the tv facing the player?

It could change. But most of the action on the turntable happens with the bat cave/batcar spinner facing. Most importantly, the locks can only be activated and accessed from this side. It's also the atomic pile shot into the bat cave for playfield multipliers also and Bat Turn with the spinner.

Theoretically they could separate battling villains from the multiball/bat turn/multipliers, but that would be a major change in the way the entire code is going.

Luckily Lyman is a pinhead and player first and foremost so I'm pretty confident he will code the game so its the best "playing" experience it can be.

I remember as he developed TWD at one point during one of the major code drops it felt like he had literally changed the layout by changing the focus of the player and where to shoot, with Lyman on BM I feel confident the more he plays the game the more he will tweak it from a players perspective.

This alone will dramatically change the relative interaction and shot selection of the player. A " useless, misplaced toy" will become quite the game changer. Hell, I never even cared about hitting the rotisserie except to engage the Batphone. Now with spinner interaction, it has changed my approach to the game...for the better!!!

I am positive Lyman will address these issues especially the ball lock issue on the turntable where locked balls are dumped out, there are 3 switches there plus an up post, should be easy enough to code the up post to stay up if one of more of the switches are activisted to keep the locked balls in the turntable.

BM66 has a long way to go with code but after the last update it's become more of an exciting wait than a nervous one.

Haven't had the ball releasing issues relative to the magnet. Probably just me, but the magnet appears to " cycle" as well, in other modes...slinging the ball around quite nicely ( more and more similar to Monger magnet effect).

I've been playing it ALOT lately ( as I'll be dismantling the left ramp soon), and a lot of little video things going on that might be hard to catch if only played on location ( particularly in MB, and villain escape MB). I kind of like how BM seems to look up, just before the screen goes to " Christmas tree dark" scenes. I know it wasn't planned, and probably something else might be put in its place, but it's almost like he "sees it" going dark, as well.

Machine still quite fun for me, and can only imagine what a " finished" version of code is going to do for this game!!!

In agreement w JonM, the ball lock issue is an easy fix ( suspect)

Ball management has been terrible since day one. Ball search resulting in instant-death multiball should be top of the list to fix.

I distinctly remember the progression of code on another game ( your avatar, and I own one), where the multiball issues were a disaster in the beginning....agreed, I'll be happy when it's a non issue ( purposely try to play " around" the known challenge now ( would rather tilt), but the MB is still quite fun, tied to the sounds and video....

I imagine due to the time frame Lyman has been prioritising adding content over debugging code, pretty sure once he's added some more depth to the game and made it more playable/enjoyable he will focus on squashing code bugs.

It gets added, but it gets added as soon as you hit the scoop, i.e. Before the animation telling you how much it is. So it looks like your not getting it, but it's already been added.

Same applies for the mystery awards, which are actually awarded before the animation tells you what it is.

Again, should be an easy code fix, but guessing it will be at the end. As JonM said, in sure Lyman is more focused on content than "house keeping."

Yeh, I see what you mean. Will check it out next time I play.

Tested on my game and found the same thing also. I'm almost certain this was not the case on .7, so it looks like a bug in .71 .

But then I was thinking maybe the Capture Villain score it isn't actually a bonus score, it's a total of what you earnt shooting the villain shots in the mode, including the jackpot at the end.

Good news is with SW being pushed back and I guess Sterns releases in general this year unless they release something earlier than planned later in the year to catch up, its hopefully given Lyman a little more time and breathing room to get BM66 up to scratch on the clock rather than on his own time

I have had this issue even in earlier code releases. But, knowing it, if I give the machine e a decent nudge when it's supposed to release, the ball will fall from the magnet. Not ideal, but at least in not going through the ball search for no reason anymore.

Problem is it sucks for anyone who doesn't know it & they still have the issue.

Does anyone know where I can get copies of the older revisions? It looks like Stern only has the latest available on their website.

Just a random thought here, but you might want to check to see if you don't have 1 ball that has become magnetized and is sticking to the core, or that the core is set down a bit and the ball is hanging on the lip. The reason I say that is my magnet really grabs the ball and I don't think a nudge would get it to drop so easy. Maybe the magnet is releasing, but there is something else holding the ball there? Just a thought.

It is definitely still being held by the magnet....not set down too low and being held on the lip. I don't know anything about magnetized balls but I can find a way to check. Thanks.

They sometimes get magnetized....especially the cheaper ones. All you need is a small piece of steel to see if it sticks! If you have one that is, get rid of it immediately.

Change them all, and be real careful picking the balls you use...many threads on this...some magnetize quicker than others. And some ( like silver jets) should never be used in a machine w magnets....put a set in my WOZ a long time ago...man, the machine went crazy!!!

Take the balls out of the game, and put them together along the lockdown bar/glass of another game. pull one of the end ones and see if they all move together.

Yeah, maybe 3 of mine are magnetized. Now I need to look for the threads on this & order some. (Or anyone feel free to pm me what they think, so we don't clog up this thread OT...thanks). Good call & thanks Manimal!

I hear its not new display and will be Sam, but wouldnt worry me at all, as id probably buy one (again ). I think its a great idea, especially if the art is good.

I'd like to see more BM66 code soon but I'd also happily wait a couple more weeks if it means another substations update like the Bat-Turn update.

I don't see what they could really do with an LCD other than show concert/music video footage or custom animation like Aerosmith neither of which I'm a fan of, I would rather see any potentially extra VE $$$$ spent on new art and really make AC/DC VE pop, the art on the original releases was the weakest aspect certainly on the pro. New art would be a great selling point for music pin fans, would allow AC/DC to sit much more cohesively with MET and AERO

I would be amazed if a new update was out this week. Believe me, I would love for us to get off this 5 week release cycle and be closer to 3 but won't hold my breath.

As for an ACDC VE, I don't understand why they even would at this point. They're still working through a 2 month backlog on production. AS is selling well for them and will likely continue until SW is announced. At which point production will likely be overloaded until year's end.

If they do an AC/DC VE, that would be great for those that would like a NIB AC/DC, but you know it will weigh 30 pounds less than the original and won't quite play as well either, just like we've seen with Iron Man and Spider-Man. It would probably have better art and sound, however.

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I have Iron Man VE and Spidey VE.

They weigh just as much as my Star Trek LE.

Thise 2 games play great too.

IMVE and SMVE play ok, but they don't play as well as the originals. SMVE weighs about 40 pounds less, for starters (260 pounds unboxed for SM vs. 230 boxed for SMVE). Still fantastic games, but you can feel the cost cutting when you are playing them. They're just not as stout.

I don't agree that a heavier game is a better game. The new switching power supplies are lighter than the older iron core transformers. Newer electronics mean smaller boards and less wiring which also leads to lighter games. When I move a game up the stairs I'm grateful for the lighter weight.

I had IM and now have IMve...plays and feels exactly the same to me.