A lot of people play stouts (myself included) but a huge portion of pros play titans as well. The way I heard Marc explain it is that the stouts make some hardr shots easy enough for more casual players to make but a good player will hit the shot and possibly hole out, or be close enough to make the putt every time. Meaning stouts help but don't give an unfair advantage to anyone.

If they were that easy to play with you'd see random people qualifying for an winning tournaments which just doesn't happen. It's always the same few guys winning and doing best so I don't think there is any need to nerf stouts.

And if you disagree the world's your oyster. Go make some serious $$ in events.

What annoys me about not playing stouts is that there are some setups of wind and tee location that make certain holes essentially impossible. 17 on Anse Cocos for example. My buddy plays non-stouts and if the wind is in his back and the tee box is behind the hole so the slope is going away from him, it's basically impossible to land without rolling off. Same with if the wind is in your face and the slope is towards you. You have to land the ball absolutely perfectly to stay on.
And then if you don't stay on the drop is sometimes in a place that makes a near impossible chip. Your round can be completely blown if you get one of those setups.

Sometimes having the extra wind power is helpful, but it seems like there are way more setups where the stouts make a green makeable rather than the other way around. The amount of raging he does on holes like Anse Cocos 17 is funny lol

On PGA stouts are called breeze, in case anyone is wondering.

Invites sent.

Another tourney round lost due to “watchdog timer timeout” failure - cabinet froze/locked up and rebooted. Never happened once in 10+ years owning the cabinet; now three times in past 2 weeks.

After last time I’ve been in touch wl ITS support and replaced the PSU. Was hoping that would do the trick. Their counsel: “some piece of hardware is failing”. Started with the easiest fix. #sigh. Seriously considering retiring the old dog and upgrading to PGA cabinet (mine was originally a Golden Tee Live 07 cabinet; have upgraded video card, motherboard, trackball, had to swap out the monitor, now PSU. Only remaining original parts are hard drive, IO board, and CID board.

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Have you tried re-seating everything?

I really love my PGA, FWIW.

We have a pga standard in stock and ready to ship if you decide to go that route.

When did you get a PGA?

What machine did you have prior to getting the pga?

I assume I'll be playing for another decade + so I am going to have to get one at some point. It was a stupid partnership. I am a PGA golf pro (not tour, just a club pro), and the partnership doesn't make any sense to me. It just makes things cost more, and nobody cares about a stupid pga course on this game. Almost everyone that plays this game sucks at golf in real life.

I got a PGA at the beginning of November.

I started with an "offline" chop top. Had that many years. Then I got a Go that I upgraded to current and took that online, and moved to PGA from there.

I bought the PGA because the last major platform change was 12 years ago, and I've never had a "real" golden tee after playing for 20 years. It was time.

I think the PGA partnership makes sense. I hate it, and I hate what they've done with it, but this wasn't aimed at people who know the Golden Tee brand. This was aimed at people who saw Golden Tee as just a generic golf game and they wanted to put some (or a lot) of marketing dollars behind it.

PGA as a game will make more sense, but many things have to change, and I'm afraid not much of that will happen until the legacy units are turned off.

Agreed. I keep hearing that they're changing putting so that the greens aren't just flat and sloped in one direction. They will have elevation and changing breaks just like a real green does. But I really doubt they'll do that until the legacy one is phased out. At that point the game may start to change a lot.

Are kits available ( Nitehawk chassis, Cid, etc) for purchase? I have a ITS 2018 pedestal game.
Thank you

They definitely don't do kits for the new Titan hardware because they want all new games in a PGA cabinet, and I am 99% certain they've stopped making the nighthawks so your only chance is to find someone who sells them. If you go to facebook and look for a guy named Richard Newman he seems to be the guy to go to for this kind of thing.
You can also just put out an ask on the "Golden Tee machines open posting" board where people buy/sell games.

Thank you for this information.

They are still supporting repairs and warranty work on brand new Nighthawk-based units sold, and selling replacement parts for them. I believe you can mail in an older nighthawk box and they'll swap it to an upgraded box for you for $1400.

Looking for a 2022 or PGA edition if anybody is looking to leave the club! Driving distance to Buffalo is a bonus, but looking for one with the stand as I won’t be wall mounting the TV and would consider shipping. Cheers and looking forward to playing with you all shortly.

Interesting, I know they switched to Titans before they even released PGA edition due to supply chain issues so every new box coming from them has the titan equipment, but I can see them offering service on the nighthawks considering how many are still out there and how its all off the shelf components anyways.

They definitely stopped selling kits though, I've seen talk about how they had issues with people having ugly cut downs and they wanted the game to have a more professional, uniform look.

A little early for used home PGAs, they’ve only been out 2 or so months.

If you go PGA don’t get the extremely overpriced deluxe version, just buy a TV stand on Amazon for $50.

I use this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08DNV8WW7

Also, Gorilla Biscuits are excellent.

Last call for anyone besides the regulars who want invites tomorrow.

Online subscriptions going up. I believe it was previously $9.99/$100? Not sure since my PGA came with one year free.

Home owners,

As of January 12, 2023, Golden Tee Home Edition online subscription pricing has changed. The new cost for the subscriptions are $12.99/month or $125/year.

This change applies to new orders and customers that have to update their payment information due to an expiring credit card.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to the team at https://home.itsgames.com/company/contact/new!

Thank you,
Kelsey Marlega
Consumer Sales Manager
Incredible Technologies

It was $9.99/$100
That reads like if you have a recurring payment your price won’t change until your CC expires.

Just like Netflix - I'm out. $8.25 a month was already too much for a game I rarely play. $10.42 is over the line. I'm out.

My favorite part of the price increase? They made it effective January 12th, and then sent the email out on January 16th telling us, "oh hey, 4 days ago the price went up." Sneaky. I get it, friday - monday issue, but still. Maybe an up-front notice of the price increase.

I just got charged by them on Jan 13th... I remember signing up around this time of the year when I started but it is a little curious that I was charged the day after they changed the price. Makes me wonder if they double charged me but I can't find last year's charge to find out exactly when it was renewing.

Even at $125/year- still cheaper than playing at the bars.
Almost everything has seen an increace recently, another $25 isn't going to stop me.
Averaging out over the 1000+/- games I am playing per year- 0.12/game is very reasonable.

I agree. That said, I think they need to start doing a lot more for home units, like bring all the commercial modes (like Closest to the Pin) to them, make tournaments a lot more easy to join/create/cancel/etc., and I want a practice mode where you can choose the location (tee, fairway, sand, etc.), club, distance to hole, wind, and so on. I'd really like to try out different techniques and ideas outside of a handicapped game.

There should be a course editor that users can create courses exclusively for home units.

Even basic low dollar games these days have features like that.

Never going to happen with IT, they are way too lazy for features like this!!

I got a notification on my phone yesterday that they are giving out a $50 gift card to someone who buys the PGA edition... I was wondering if that was some kind of joke. Who the hell thinks a $50 gift card is an incentive to buy something for $5000? They are so out of touch.

With IT focusing on the PGA, (and their casino gaming) I doubt there will be many 'new' events/features for us HE owners. We're left to wither on the vine until our legacy cabinets are no longer supported/updated.
I do miss the 'rivals' ladder. I enjoyed trying to beat YJD (I got as close as -1 to him). Guess the PGA agreement shoved Daly out the door.

A huge number of people complained about the ladder being gone and their excuse was that the Daly agreement expired but they easily could have just taken Daly out of it. They have no interest in that stuff though. Their focus is on monetization and mobile/casino shit.

LOL. That is literally 0% off

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Just because Daily is gone doesn’t mean they can’t do the ladder. Remove him, keep the feature.

They should just change his skin tone and call him Mr. Dream. Done.

Don Jaly

Or the Marlboro & diet Coke man.... lol

So what the monthly fee give you with the pga home edition ? If you don't sign up for the monthly can you play the game ?

I have the GT PGA 2022 edition and it came with the subscription 'in the price'. I believe after a year though, there will be a renewal fee though I have not found anything that says that in writing.

My PGA Standard came from Kingpin! Great company!

You can play but only offline with a generic character. So no stat tracking, no events/contests, no custom equipment or custom golfer. It's a much better game when you're online.

Yeah most new machines come with one year free then it will auto renew.

Golden Tee Marquee

I figured some of you pinheads are wiring guru's.

Is there any way to connect a lighted marquee to the tv directly? Anyone have a wiring hack that I can plug it in a wall or convert to USB and plug it into the TV?

I have a golden tee go and it won't accept the plug.

Thanks in advance, here's the connection...

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I'm pretty certain these run on 12v. What I would do is buy a power adapter like this and wire them together. I've done this to run PC fans and things like that from the wall.
USB is only 5V so I don't think you'd be able to wire it that way.

https://www.amazon.ca/Universal-adapters-Converter-Inverter-Transformer/dp/B08CXND8ZK/

I hooked mine up to online; what do I get for this? All I seem to be able to do is just play online and track my progress...Am I missing something?

Thanks, I will give it a shot.

You can join our weekly invites. 2 games a week Izzy charges $.50 per course so $1/wk.

online gets you a persistent character with stat tracking and clothing that you can use at a commercial or a home edition machine. You can also choose a custom bag of clubs and customize your balls.
It also gets you into online contests which are just for fun, or events which you can win money from.

Short game is hard for sure. One thing that made my chipping from just off the green better is using a low iron like a 5 and giving it about a quarter back swing and then swing forwards like you're putting. This seems to give a much better chance of going in since the ball is rolling towards the hole rather than flying through the air and landing right near it. It means you don't necessarily need the distance to be perfect, just the line and it can go in.

Depending on which club set I'm using, I use the 6I, 7I (usual chipper off the green for my club sets that have this club), or 8I. For the new courses that you can almost drive the green on, when I'm short of the green and not close enough to use the already mentioned clubs- I'll use the 5 hybrid..... low trajectory and goes further. All these take lots of practice to master, and as usual, your club speed and the length of your pull back and follow through determine how far each will go....

Yeah I was using the 7i for these shots originally but I found it had too much loft and sometimes the ball would hop over the hole. By using something like the 5i you get a nice roll with no hop. (backspin/bite helps minimize the hop but I found it less consistent than the 5i)

A lot of people seem to use the hybrid like you're saying, I just really hate using hybrids so I don't have them in my bag.

I'd like to learn how to do a "chush" shot with those clubs like I see the pros do. It's a way of consistently hitting the ball straight and with the right amount of power but I've never seen a great explanation of how to do it so I never try it. They basically do a knee high backswing and then put their thumb on the front of the trackball, about 45 degrees up the face, and let it drop.

One guy in the last tournament I watched would even go into the pause menu and step through each option until it went back to the unpause option so he could "calibrate" his swing. I guess the idea is that each time he moved the trackball it should step you forward one option in the menu. If you move two options or don't move at all you're giving too much or too little to the ball.

Wife and I just went to play our second tournament game of this weekend's Pinside tourneys, today's patch applied, finally after 15-20 minutes the game booted to the attract screen but no online. Went to the Settings menu (the button underneath the control panel) and saw that it is connected to my network. Then tried Force Connect to ITNET. After a few minutes it connected, then it advanced to a screen called Syncing Adjustables, and now has been stuck/circling there for 30 minutes. Don't want to turn the machine off right now because it sounds like one of those processes where it's writing stuff, but not sure what to do if it stays stuck for an hour or more.

Any ideas? Often rebooting anything computer related a second time after an update/patch will fix issues, but not sure I should shut down on this particular screen or just wait it out.

I've turned it off and on again in this exact situation. Whenever I call home to ITnet I tend to get stuck and I've had that same "Syncing Adjustables" screen sit there for what felt like forever. I just turned it off and booted it up again.

The Patch 12 update went fine. Machine was powered off, from power on to game music was about 8 minutes.