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Gold Ball Carbon Steel - Cointaker

By PinRob

3 years ago


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    #1 3 years ago

    Anyone try one yet? https://cointaker.com/products/gold-pinball1

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    #2 3 years ago

    Would look great in a TAF. Last time I used a gold ball it faded pretty quickly. Cointaker seems to feel they have solved this, here is their write up:

    “At Long Last we have finally made the Gold Pinball. These balls are made from Carbon Steel so they are great for games with magnets. No need to worry about the gold wearing off on your playfields or rubbers like gold balls from the past. Our Gold balls are tough and look amazing in games.“

    #3 3 years ago

    Guess I’ll have to try one and report back, Sure am curious how the ball is treated to make it gold and not have to worry about it wearing off.

    #4 3 years ago

    They look amazing in my brassed out IJ and TOM and Munsters

    #5 3 years ago
    Quoted from Blakester:

    They look amazing in my brassed out IJ and TOM and Munsters

    Do they legit not fade or wear off? How much play have you put them through?

    #6 3 years ago
    Quoted from Blakester:

    They look amazing in my brassed out IJ and TOM and Munsters

    Details, how many plays approximately, any noticeable nicks or wear on them, have some pictures of them close up?

    #7 3 years ago

    Following. These would look amazing in TAF gold, curious how they hold up

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    #8 3 years ago

    Emailed Melissa @ cointaker. She responded quickly and confirmed that the finish won’t wear off.

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    #9 3 years ago

    Are these Titanium Nitride coated? I have been considering TiN coating pinballs for a number of years but I haven't been able to think of a good way to get complete coverage without a weird transition somewhere

    #11 3 years ago

    These would look nice in The Shadow.

    #12 3 years ago

    So they do have a divide line on them due to gold process likely having ball sit in something to hold it.

    #13 3 years ago

    If this indeed is titanium nitride coating, then I’d assume you would get some added benefits like reduced ball wear, less ball friction, and no chance of rust, to name a few.

    #14 3 years ago
    Quoted from PinRob:

    If this indeed is titanium nitride coating, then I’d assume you would get some added benefits like reduced ball wear and less ball friction to name a few.

    I'm willing to bet anything that its TiN coated. In theory you should get some benefits due to the durability and slickness of the coating, however in a pinball application I bet the main benefit (besides looks) will be resistance to rusting. Certainly you won't have to worry about the coating chipping off as thats just not how TiN works. Its phsyically bonded to the metal at the molecular level so even if the coating wears off it doesn't come off in flakes. I do these types of coatings for a living. Maybe i'll bring a few balls into work and give them a try for myself.

    Another pinball piece I want to do is leg bolts.

    For anyone wondering how these will hold up, have no worries. This coatings normal application is much much more heavy duty than anything a pinball can throw at it. For an example, a common thing would be carbide cutting tools. If it can make carbide last longer, a pinball won't touch it. It won't have much effect on dings and divots that will develop, so don't expect your balls to last forever, but they will easily last at least as long as a normal ball but with the great gold color

    #15 3 years ago

    Is that done with Vapor Deposition?

    #16 3 years ago
    Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

    Is that done with Vapor Deposition?

    Yes. Plasma vapor deposition to be exact.

    #17 3 years ago

    I bet the line around the ball could be almost eliminated during the coating process. Maybe a 3 pointed ball holder (needle sharp touching the ball).

    #18 3 years ago
    Quoted from PinRob:

    I bet the line around the ball could be almost eliminated during the coating process. Maybe a 3 pointed ball holder (needle sharp touching the ball).

    I'm not so sure, the piece needs to be very secure when its inside the machine being coated. If it falls off then it can be a big problem. Even with your idea you'd still have 3 little marks were the ball was resting on the tiny points, and possibly 3 little discoloration marks as well. If it worked though it might be a decent improvement. You also have to take into consideration that you'd need multiple custom made fixtures to hold them, which wouldn't be cheap and might be hard to get a return on your investment.

    #19 3 years ago
    Quoted from Haymaker:

    I'm not so sure, the piece needs to be very secure when its inside the machine being coated. If it falls off then it can be a big problem. Even with your idea you'd still have 3 little marks were the ball was resting on the tiny points, and possibly 3 little discoloration marks as well. If it worked though it might be a decent improvement. You also have to take into consideration that you'd need multiple custom made fixtures to hold them, which wouldn't be cheap and might be hard to get a return on your investment.

    Yeah I wasn’t sure, just was trying to think of a way to lessen the mark on the ball. And yes you’d need a lot of fixtures to hold them. I’m rooting for ya if you try to do it. I’ve got a set of 4 coming soon and I’ll report here with my opinions and observations.

    #20 3 years ago

    I got some for my Houdini and they look fantastic! I'd say they have more of a brassy look than a shiny gold look, which is perfect for the game. The line around the ball isn't noticeable at all during play.

    I'm hoping they hold up well... I have the pearl black ones in my BSD and those tend to lose their shine after awhile. The gold ones are pricy enough that I don't think I'll stick with them if they have to be replaced more than once a year or so.

    #21 3 years ago

    Have one i bought off one of the eu stores. Its the captive ball in my pinball magic. No aigns of wear after several years.

    #22 3 years ago
    Quoted from dung:

    Have one i bought off one of the eu stores. Its the captive ball in my pinball magic. No aigns of wear after several years.

    I don’t think your talking about the same type of ball being discussed here if you got it years ago.

    #23 3 years ago

    Yesssssssss
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    Bally did those gold balls 40 years ago, and they are still gold today

    #24 3 years ago
    Quoted from PinRob:

    I don’t think your talking about the same type of ball being discussed here if you got it years ago.

    It could be. Theres no reason somebody else couldn't have been TiN coating pinballs before back alley creations started doing it here. Like I mentioned, I'd been considering it for many years now.

    #25 3 years ago
    Quoted from Haymaker:

    It could be. Theres no reason somebody else couldn't have been TiN coating pinballs before back alley creations started doing it here. Like I mentioned, I'd been considering it for many years now.

    Maybe so, I dunno

    #26 3 years ago

    Got a set of 4. I’m happy with them, they aren’t perfect but I wasn’t expecting that. Some are nicer than others, some have a couple VERY small lighter silver/gold spots, some have more pronounced divide line around them. But in the machine it won’t be noticeable. Going in my IMVE

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    #27 3 years ago

    same weight as normal pinballs?

    #28 3 years ago
    Quoted from cait001:

    same weight as normal pinballs?

    I’d assume so. Just a standard carbon steel pinball that has been TiN coated

    #29 3 years ago

    Game testing

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    #30 3 years ago

    Did anyone else try these? I’d like to see if they are experiencing what I am with small scuff/skid marks showing up all over the clear coat on the playfield. I’ve cleaned my playfield and put back standard carbon balls to see what happens. Then I’ll go back and see with the gold ones. Really weird.

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    #31 1 year ago

    anyone use this for awhile yet? I don't want to buy some and regret it.

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