Going to look at a T2 today. What should I look for?

WEAR.

These machine wear the hell out from over play. Probably the most played pin of the era.

The head takes a bashing and the plastics start to break around that area. I'm sure the HK ship is wrecked as well. The targets get beat to hell. And with a highly played machine comes beer soak.

Of course, check the GI connectors and battery acid damage

#4 11 years ago

MST

mystic

Inactive member

Cracks in the bottom of the skull, make sure the cannon works.

#5 11 years ago

JDP

putman

Inactive member

Denver, CO

12y 7,650 34 2

What I've seen:
Check the batteries for corrosion. If the seller says "Pinball machines have batteries??" then you really need to check them.
Burned GI connectors, broken stuff on the playfield like the ship, or the "SKYNET COMMAND CENTER" & "ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE" signs over the ramps.
The area around the pop bumpers is worn on mine.

Good luck, I've enjoyed working on mine.

#6 11 years ago

MOZ

StevenP

Inactive member

14y 30,900 3,781

My only honest answer to your question is: You should look for a T3!

#7 11 years ago

MIK

Miguel351

Pinside member

11y 81,400 4,571 3

Great posts all! I knew there were more than a few that owned them here, that's why I knew you'd come up with good stuff.

All items added to the list.

Thanks!

#8 11 years ago

SBC

castlesteve

Quoted from StevenP:
My only honest answer to your question is: You should look for a T3!

When a t2 is half the price?

#9 11 years ago

CBM

spfxted

Pinside member

Saddle River, NJ

12y 147K 24,661 4 9

T2 is great! lots of cool mods. Always a crowd pleaser.
Check HK Ship. Skull. Check cannon...make sure it works. Just give it a good once over and play a bunch of games. Don't sweat the super-small stuff. If there is major wear on the playfield...pass.

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#10 11 years ago

TOM

Rascal_H

Pinside member

Cumberland, RI

12y 138K 6,567 2 36

Quoted from castlesteve:
When a t2 is half the price?

And twice as fun.

#11 11 years ago

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StevenP

Inactive member

14y 30,900 3,781

Quoted from castlesteve:
When a t2 is half the price?

Well, to me T3 is at least twice as fun as T2, but you can also find T2s for around $2k, maybe even a bit less (as noted in a recent thread here).

#12 11 years ago

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mystic

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http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/need-advice-on-t3-guys

T2 is a 2k game now? Is my no fear up to 3k yet?

#13 11 years ago

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mattmain

Inactive member

Indianapolis, IN

12y 29,650 170

what do t3s go for?

#14 11 years ago

TOM

Rascal_H

Pinside member

Cumberland, RI

12y 138K 6,567 2 36

Quoted from mattmain:
what do t3s go for?

#15 11 years ago

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mattmain

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Indianapolis, IN

12y 29,650 170

ha!!!! thanks rascal

#16 11 years ago

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Stack15

Inactive member

Macon, GA

12y 64,300 2,939 4

Did you buy it? I bought one this year. I'd say look for raised inserts and insert wear. Raised can be fixed even with a low skill level like me. Insert wear is a whole other animal though. I have learned to live with such.

Very good game.

#17 11 years ago

MOZ

StevenP

Inactive member

14y 30,900 3,781

Quoted from mystic:
T2 is a 2k game now? Is my No Fear up to 3k yet?

dammit, I meant to say that you can find T*3*'s for around $2k, maybe even a bit less. Mistyped--sorry.

#18 11 years ago

SBC

castlesteve

T3 for under 2k would be a find. I'd certainly be on it

#19 11 years ago

MST

mystic

Inactive member

Quoted from StevenP:
dammit, I meant to say that you can find T*3*'s for around $2k, maybe even a bit less. Mistyped--sorry.

Ah that makes more sense.

#20 11 years ago

JSS

Stack15

Inactive member

Macon, GA

12y 64,300 2,939 4

Quoted from castlesteve:
T3 for under 2k would be a find. I'd certainly be on it

Me too! I really like the Terminator theme and movies.

#21 11 years ago

MIK

Miguel351

Pinside member

11y 81,400 4,571 3

Report:

Well, it's got some decent playfield wear. Weren't these pins all "diamond plated" or factory mylared? It looks like there was no protective coating anywhere. It was down to wood in about a 2" by 3" wide area just above the right flipper, before that red light bar thing. There was playfield wear up around the top bonus multiplier lanes(or whatever they're called). The Terminator skull was being propped up by something covered in tape. The DMD had a few lines dark and a few lines out. There were other more minor things that needed attention as well, but they escape my memory right now. It was on location and I'm sure the manager guy who escorted me in wanted to be somewhere else right then. I think I'm going to pass on it. It's not a pin I ultimately want nor have any affinity towards and it seems like a bit more work than I want to undertake for a pin I don't love.

That's the bad news.

The good news:

Also in that same location he had a WH20 that looked fantastic! Zero playfield wear(just dirty), it had the topper, factory mylar looked great(no bubbling), and the cabinet was straight(albeit knicked up a bit, nothing major). What do you think I should offer him? I'm thinking $2K just because I don't think he thinks about playfield wear and fixes as a real issue and just has a general idea what that amount of machinery is worth. Not really a collector kind of guy, just a regular joe operator. Can't hurt to ask, right? I'll talk to him on Monday about it.....

-Mike

#22 11 years ago

CBM

spfxted

Pinside member

Saddle River, NJ

12y 147K 24,661 4 9

Yes!...pass on the T2. Or offer $600.
If you like the other machine...offer low and let him come up. Even better to have him offer a price...and then go DOWN from there....

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#23 11 years ago

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mystic

Inactive member

Run away from the t2. If he wants that much for a beat up t2 I can't imagine what his asking price would be for a good quality wh20. Doesn't hurt to ask I guess.

#24 11 years ago

SBC

castlesteve