Be a man and get both if you want both.

Get Godzilla now and enjoy, then sell and get Rush later

Edit: well, if you get any of them now that is

I ordered both, lifelong Rush fan and after playing a Godzilla on location I knew right away that thing was special, like Iron Madien flow type special. Not really a Godzilla fan, watched all the movies as kid and blew it off as something corny at first but I was way wrong. It’s hilarious and fun for all ages. I can see Godzilla being a desirable game down the road, should hold its value.

If you’re a Rush fan, get that and move it on later if it’s not a keeper.

And here's the premature ejaculatory thread I've been waiting on

I'm pretty sure Rush don't stand a chance against Godzilla. He's 30 stories tall for crying out loud!

This is pure speculation, but I think Elwins pins are going to be the most saught after pins as they age into the market. They just shoot SOO fucking well. It's hard for me to admit it as I'm not a huge stern fan, but his designs are the best ever IMHO. I've probably played at least 80%+ of all modern pins, and his games are insanely good by comparison. You can tell that he designs as a pinhead, not a "designer." GOAT.

Random dude of the net recommendation: Buy and hold.

I'd say Godzilla, but where's the "neither" option on your poll?

Almost anything recent VS Elwin is a Title fight

Yeah for me Elwin is an easy win against Borg; everytime

I have a gz here, and a rush on the way. Hard to pick which plays better obviously, but rush looks to be a funner game for me.

Why do I keep clicking on these stupid game vs game threads. God!!!!!

To funny, I just clicked n it too, now I'm pulled in

I have been playing both GZ LE and Rush LE on location for the last few weeks

I love GZ, have a deposit on one shipping early April, but now I am torn like a lot of you -

but for those that have played Rush, please educate me, I may be off in these observations but would love others opinions:

It feels like is really heavy right side shooting & ball return, when I play it just feels like 70-80% of the time I'm on the right flipper & hitting the time machine or the left VUK

I think the scoop in the center may be contributing to this feeling & at times it feels like its "in the way"

the other observation/question - I tend to start playing new pins long before I have a clue about how they are to be played or learning the rule sets.

In this case, from an average at best pin player - this game seems way too easy? or is it me, you seem to get a multiball every 30 seconds, I swear, and they last forever.

The third time I played the game I scored 210,000,000 - more typically 70mil - 100mil

but free game almost every time I play ???

but man it is fun to shoot !

GZ Le blows Rush Le away!!! Not even close. Although I love RUSH music. My favorite band!

A barcade close to where I live has both Rush LE and Godzilla LE. Despite my name, I’m not a Rush music fan (my spouse is a super fan though) and when I first saw pictures of the Rush pin I was meh. I already have a ring magnet toy in LOTR.

I love the GZ pin. It’s awesome. But wow is the Rush LE a million times better than I expected. I rate both similarly. If you like Rush, the band, get a Rush premium. It’s a super fun game. The barcade has it next to a JJP GnR and while to me GnR looks better in a brochure (and I like GnR music much more than Rush), the Rush pin to me is a lot more fun. I think Stern Rush and Godzilla are both freaking awesome.

Agreed. Also huge Rush fan. Played both LEs in St Louis last week. Godzilla all day long. Look for an XMLE if you like Rush’ layout

I have both ,I prefer Rush but godzilla is pretty fun too.

Gz shoots better, but theme is not much for me, whereas rush theme is high on my list. I luckily own both games, really don't know which I prefer, leaning towards rush at the moment. Gz rules are much better tho,

Really? This actually a poll? I mean Godzilla is one of the best pins we’ve seen in a long time and Rush is very average at best and I’m trying my best to be generous this morning.

Life should be about ANDs and not ORs…

I have a Rush Pro with a GZ Pro on order. Problem soon to be solved!

Unless Rush is your all time favorite band, GZ is the easy choice. Not sure what you mean when you say you are a “Rush fan”… I’m not saying Rush isn’t fun but GZ is a better game in my opinion and will have more staying power. It also appeals to a broader audience if you have a family or you intend having other people play.

I love both, to be honest, but they are very different. Rush is a much easier shooter with longer ball times, whereas Godzilla is a more technical shooter and can punish you for your mistakes. The light show on Rush is outstanding!

Now that's just poppycock !

Borg created a masterpeice in Rush LE. This has to be his best pinball ever.my new #1 with expression Lights going and volume up.
It kinda feels like you just went to a concert after done playing it.
I played a gz premium at pinbrew last year .. I didnt think i was playing one of the best games ever .. My fav pinball ever is Tales of the Arabian nights and Mideveil Madness.
GZ is a cool game but Rush is better.
Hope they do a remake on Tales of Arabian Nights ..that game is a blast.

Here less than a year and MM and TOTAN... Your lamp spins are too low for sound judgement on GZ, grasshopper.

I have both and my favorite seems to be the 1 I am playing at the time,very close.

I've got both side by side and while Godzilla is awesome I'm ultimately playing Rush somewhat more. Admittedly though as far as themes go I'm neutral on Godzilla but a huge Rush fan, so that likely has much to do with it.

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I pulled trigger on a Godzilla Premium , going to have fun Modding it out. (Im on 3rd run , late 2022 production estimate)
Picked up a Rush LE its a blast, so fun to play.. Pure Fun .

#1 Borg game
&
#1 Elwin game

I like both. They shoot really different. Feels like a ton more going on in the back of the playfield in GZ shot wise. Rush feels like its own game but the shots do feel closer down the playfield. Godzilla has better flow and feels like a more original playfield design and mechs are very unique. Rush mechs have all been done. I will say that it does not feel like Xmen as expected. One of Borgs best games but the theme is really at the top of my list for dreams. Not sure you can go wrong but I would go with what theme I love more.

Poor Iron Maiden is not getting played much due to the new hotness of these two titles.

say what

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I know this is an older thread but I wanted to ask specifically if the huge cult following on the Godzilla is due more to the popularity of the theme, or truly the playfield flow and dynamics?

I own Rush, and have 3 friends with godzilla's 20 minutes from my house, and if asked this question today, I'd have a hard time answering which to purchase.

Both are A titles in my opinion and Stern will really have to step up to not have a dud on their next release.

Rush an A title? Glad you like it but don't think Stern is struggling to meet demand for that title like GZ. Doubt theme has much to do with it. Elwin makes amazing games.

Gameplay fo sho. The theme is pretty funny & cool but the whole package with layout and rules and what's driving this.

Well ah, great news for you indeed!

I love both games, but very few games, if any can compete with Godzilla.

Old thread that needs a bump.

Rush just won all kinds of 2022 awards in some unknown sdtm distro hosted "pinball network?" award YouTube show that doesn't really matter anyway but regardless, it's fun when your horse wins.

The answer on this topic is unique for each person.
Both games are very fun. Sales numbers shouldn't matter in the process of reaching your individual answer, imo.
2021 goes to gz, 2022 goes to rush. This thread should be more active...
But who cares.
Both are amazing. If you're a serious Rush fan it's no contest. If your not pining for Rush, and skip it for gz then I'd argue you're really not a serious fan. Poser.
Admit it.
Buy gz for popularity, buy it for Elwin, buy it cause you can't get it. You can't lose with either pin. You'll love gz and Rush from a shooting perspective but as a "serious Rush fan" you'll just miss out on all those "GNR moments" you have now with GNR.. you know what I mean... the feeling you get rocking out top tier pinball to killer music you LOVE? Yeah who wants that, you're right... Get gz. Surely you'll get goosebumps when gz roars or smile when the sounds of explosions fill the room. The obligatory call outs. Meh. But that's me.

If you like each theme (or don't care either way) and can afford, have the room and spousal approval for both, buy both... If I'm in your shoes, with what I know, Here's the best answer:

Get Rush pro now and wait on your gz premium. Work on the spousal support for number 3. There will be tons of them around later when you want to add it to your collection. Unless you're a fomo trend buyer or someone who puts theme lower in importance or more than anything likes the thrill of the chase, then definitely gz. Both are great playing games but only one is the best theme for you which imo is half the experience. Why settle on theme if they aren't equal? The lesser theme of the two should be the NEXT pin, not the first pin you aquire. Let's be honest, you're likely going to get a third pin regardless of what you or your spouse says ... She loves you, right? .. It's a matter of time. You can have both!

On a side note, you won't be playing your GNR much with either one.. ask me how I know. You might even consider selling it once or twice every now and then when you feel sorry you're neglecting it. It deserves more! Then you rip yourself away from your Stern play it out of pity and realize it's awesome on another level in a different way and come to your senses.. GNR is amazing. But......
Next day you go back to your Stern... It's natural. It's a great shooter. Hey At least GNR looks gorgeous in attract mode... Get ready for it. It's tough.

I've got less than 10 "sympathy for the GNR" plays on it since I got Rush a month and a half ago. I'm sure gz would have the same effect. It was a much simpler life with 1 pin. Careful what you ask for...
What have I done?

Rush won all the 2022 awards just by default because there was nothing else contending. Bond came out with shoddily unfinished code, Toy Story got slammed for the price and for being TS4 and for the ipad hogging half the playfield, nobody has played Weird Al since it isn't in arcades, and Scooby-Doo barely came out at all.

Rush is a solid B+, but it's not quite A-grade material like Godzilla. Rush's vibe is silly rather than epic, the playfield is a little off-kilter with the off-center flippers and time machine, and the rules structure doesn't fit together quite so well in that the time machine multiballs and instrument activations feel tacked-on and grindy. It's still great and fun, but it's not a GOAT contender.

I own both, I play Rush a lot more. Maybe because I love the music, but its just more fun to me.

Textbook response from a pinball guy, who is clearly not a serious Rush fan. Excellent supporting post. Now go get your gz! (Or update your collection list)

Followed by a textbook response from a true rush fan. Right here....

Thanks guys. I rest my case.
Rush fans are the best! Peeer-eee-uhd!!

What does SDTM or Flip N Out Pinball have to do with the Rush wins? I didn't vote. Votes came from media creators, competitive players, those outside of TPN, and from public as well. Just trying to correctly inform readers of this thread. Thanks for the mention.

Rush and Godzilla are side by side at my house and should be #1 and #2 You choose the order because I go back and Forth.

You could have switched the envelopes while at the podium.
I thought I saw something up your sleeve during that award.

I own a Rush Premium and GZ Pro. I just sold the GZ. It is a great game. But with how many premiums they have made and will make, you will find one down the road. I'm glad I've owned one and I do see what the hype is about. But my play style and love to build value has me giving Rush the nod on this one. At least for now.

...Nothing is bolted to the floor. If it were, how could you slide save?

You hosted it. That's what I said. I thought I was pretty clear.

Actually despite that post, I've got a Rush coming this weekend in a trade deal. I like Rush the band fine, I'm not really much of a music fan of anything but if I had to pick a favorite band it probably would be them. I want GZ someday, but it can wait until a good deal shows up, and in the meantime it's in just about every arcade.

But the truth is that Godzilla is a greatest-of-all-time contender and Rush is ordinary. Fun, upbeat, colorful, musical, might be a top-40 of all time contender, but ordinary. You play through a list of songs like the hundred other dad-rock pins, and the layout is only a small remix of any other upper-flipper game.

(The game that I really wish existed is Rush's theme using AIQ's layout. That would work amazingly since Rush's songs are so flowy. AIQ's layout is somewhat wasted on that theme, fighting Thanos would make more sense with a big bash toy rather than endless combos.)