I’m curious, what do they plug into for power? Could you also show a pic? Thanks

Amazing work!

CN9 is not the ticket connector. It's the dollar bill acceptor connector. Also these HA series fans here are only about 2/3 the airflow of the pinmonk kit you're copying.

I’ve used fans on my R/C car electric motors years ago to help keep them cool for optimal power. Using a fan to blow on a electric motor/coil has been around…so saying he copied you is a bit much IMHO. If you’re saying he copied/cloned your brackets then maybe you have the right to call him out and if that’s the case then I apologize for calling you out.

Yeah, the product copying is the point. The brackets are pretty much identical to the 1.0 pinmonk brackets I made that I abandoned because they could not stand up to the vibration from the flipper plates and shaker motors over time - many broke and had to be replaced months later. Also, the fused power connector is a ripoff of mine. Looks like he may have also copied the inline schottky rectifier diode on it under the shrink at the one end.

But the fact that he doesn't even know what he's connecting to on the node board should be concern number one. Concern number two is less than 2/3 the airflow with these. Copying without understanding why I did things the way I did and thinking any fan will do is no bargain. I understand and encourage DIY, but if you're selling stuff to other people who trust you with their machines it's a whole different animal - especially if it connects to node boards, the whats and whys are important, and copying others is a NO-NO.

Fusing a power connector is not copying, it's normal (or should be). As for the brackets, did he steal your printing files? If not, he didn't copy anything. There's only so many ways to make a bracket. People have been mounting fans near flippers for decades using all kinds of methods.... you're coming off quite petulant here.

These are an obvious attempt to copy/sell a cheaper version of a product previously put out by Vic. You should be supporting quality in the community not encouraging knock offs mate.

Which is it? Is it normal? Or should it be normal? You can't have it both ways.

I'm one of the few modders (the only?) I know of that included a fused connector with a protective rectifier diode with a mod that connects to a pin as a protective measure. So, it's not normal at all in pinball mods. More than anything else, that fused adapter is the dead giveaway. But, it's not just the bracket similarity, it's the power, fusing, connector arrangement, etc.

There are many ways to address cooling bracket design that are quite different than what I've released so far. All it takes is imagination and a desire for excellence. You'll see.

And...petulant? Really? My post was nothing of the sort. I think we essentially had this same go-round on pinside when the Canadian guy pumped me for parts info, then decided it was cool to sell cooling kits here on pinside also based on my sets, which was even less cool because he directly hit me up for details to make his copy. So, if you thought THAT one was ok, it's not surprising you have this opinion still. And we still disagree.

But I still like you.

Using fans to cool something down is hardly being a pioneer. Relax Chief.

I've been using fused little fans plugged into
Any 12v for years. I usually use a modified din rail as a bracket but lately I tie wrap the fans nearby in place. If I sold kits they'd be about 15 bucks with a 10 dollar profit. LOL.

Much easier when you have something to look at before you "design" a fused connector.

33% less cfm is not "slightly less."

These are mypinballs TAF magnet protector looms, with inline fuses

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https://www.pinballinfo.com/community/threads/back-in-stock-addams-family-magnet-protector-looms.52263

I’m a 30 year electrician and I can promise you guys that nobody on this forum invented inline fuses . I’m not taking either side I’m just saying that’s a common item that’s been around a long time .

Here are some inline fuse looms available on Ali

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32994128823.html

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This statement is expectable from somebody who is not American. This is the way.

PinMonk - If you want to claim that your product is great because of X,Y and Z, that's awesome. It's your right to acknowledge you have a great product, and you should be proud. I'm sure you are. But it's not good business to promote your product by cutting your competitor off at the knees. Competition is nothing new in business. Let your product speak for itself. You're going to sell more units by talking up your product, not by talking the other guy's down.

Just look at Stern. Forever they were the only game in town. And in what feels like the blink of an eye, they have 3 serious competitors. To combat it, they upped their game (pun-intended). They started producing better games, hired more talent, created new innovations, increased production. Never once have you ever heard a Stern employee talk badly about Spooky, JJP, or American Pinball. At least, not publicly. Look how that's working out for them.

I can site my own business as well. When I owned Reciprocal Skateboards NYC in 2007, i was the only place in all of NYC w a collector operated pinball arcade. We were key in bringing pinball in NYC back from the dead. I did that for years w no competition. All of a sudden, a new place in Brooklyn saw the success I was having, and started doing a very similar thing. Except they bought lots more machines, and put me in a position that made me look inferior. Did i feel like my idea had been copied? Maybe. But instead of saying bad things about their business, methods and upkeep, I decided I had to work harder to be the best. As good as I was before, I had to be better. And I carry that tradition still today, with my more recent establishment. No matter what good things people say about the games at my establishment, I can always add another unique game, make it play better than anyone else's, and give people a better experience for their money. I only speak about myself, and what I do. What the competition does is their business. And I know I respect myself more for it. I'll never be the only pinball place in town anymore, and I'm fine with that. I just strive to be the greatest.

I know if you take the same approach, you'll be better for it. You have a good product. Rest comfortably enough on that. Then strive to keep making it better.