You guys have convinced me to watch the movie.

Yes, it's true. Never saw it.

It had better be good.

(The original)

Not sure if you have experienced the Halloween pin. Multiple killings by knife, graphic depictions of death. Oh, and boobies. I guess the boobies can be considered rainbows.

Godfather pin is like most of us: grown ass people trying to validate the value of an amusement game.

Will be interesting to see which way they go with it.

I'm pretty sure the wire forms are made from noodles.

And they cut the run short due to lack of sales... then the game catches on and sells for $20K in 3 years ala POTC.

I was talking about GF... TS4 will never hit 20K in my lifetime.

I hate roller blades.

Wonder what the music will be like on GF.

I'm thinking they limited the BOM on TS4 to really pack GF. Guess we will know soon.

JJP no longer has any standards. Just ask Mirco...

I can buy an LE for $12,000?

Now there's an offer I can refuse.

Next...

I'm just afraid I would hit my hog on that horse.

Oh, they will sell fine. With the shit loads of money in the hobby and the impulse buying of $15k games on a whim by so many... The market will have plenty to go around.

The state of this hobby is Fucking nuts.

Game looks interesting for certain.

This is pinside. You could post that water is wet and set off an avalanche of dissenting opinions.

The art is great. It's just set in a style you aren't fond of. And that's ok. Your opinion is just fine.

Hence my choice of the word "avalanche". Trying to be clever on multiple levels

Congrats Lloyd. You ARE the Godfather!

Be careful, you'll snag it on that horse head shooter rod.

Let's be honest, that cartoonish sculpt with the Tommy gun on the playfield is completely out of place with the rest of the pin, animations, and especially the art. Quite an odd decision to go with that style.

No. It is impossible to please everyone. But you were close.

Holy shit guys. You realize there are other threads to address off topic issues? That's right, you only care about getting the last word and totally taking this thread completely off topic for 2 pages... good Lord!

So, GF... anyone think the magnetic bling idea will be carried forward, or is this just a one off. Probably not a selling point for a location pin.

March 1 is the start of meteorological spring

That art is stunning. The style creates a dark "mobster" atmosphere. Well done Franchi.

I love coin pushers! Someone pm me if they got one they want to sell.

That being said, I now have to watch the gameplay and check back in here with my opinion on the sounds. Everyone here knows my opinion is the only one that matters.

I liked the music. I am pretty sure someone is playing a Wonka just off camera. Am I wrong?

It would be really cool if all the LEDs flashed white in rhythm with the Tommy gun firing, simulating flash from the barrel. Less color and a cool dramatic effect.

It's only $15,000. Why chance losing a spot waiting on game play video?

Oboe actually, but still.... Odd.

The whole point is there are elements that aren't cohesive. The art, video, lighting, and sculpts should all be done in a complimentary manner.

The main sculpt is done in a manner that looks like a caricature while the rest of the art is elegant realistic. The music is dramatic and some sound effects are cartoonish. The overall tone of the pin is dark and the lighting is bright and colorful.

These contractions oppose the cohesiveness this title demands. It's a shame as so many of the elements seem great on their own merit, just not in this package.
It's a hindrance to immersion in the theme.

Most here have taken the plunge on what they HOPED was in the box.

And expensive

New pins need to be coded with two options for game play:

1. Fun
2. Deep

For $15K, all that shit should already be in there. Many have become complacent with value for the dollar in pinball.

Game looks good, seems to shoot well and fun, but it should blow us away in every category. Not sure it does that.

Just being honest, the music reminded me of a chase scene from the TV show "CHiPs".

Each player should be able to choose level before first ball. Beginner, novice, pro. Otherwise the settings would be too hard/easy (depending on how the operator sets it up) as the pool of players on location vary widely.

8:30 eastern time? Us old fuckers can't stay up that late... WTF??

Okay... But I can't promise I'll be sober...

I respectfully disagree. At $12k and $15k, these pins are ABSOLUTELY being targeted for the home market. Will some be placed by operators, yes. But that is becoming a stretch at these prices.

What's the BOM on these games? We will never know. But it's a fair assumption that there prices are demand driven. This is a $10k game tops. Not hating, not blaming manufacturers for getting the most profit they can.

But for the average hobbyist that doesn't have a huge disposable income, it just sucks. I can't just decide to spend $15k on an emotional whim. Enough can to keep the sales going. And the great pinball divide grows even deeper.

Doesn't Halo do a huge business compared to pinball though? Just from my observations I'd say so but I could be wrong.

I think the fact operators can sell their pins and lose very little after routing profits may be why. But when that resale goes away, I'm not sure these prices will be supported by operators.

It's a crazy time, that's for sure!

After watching Karl's stream, I noticed that the voice overs and call outs override switch hits for sounds. That is why you don't hear as many "Wanka" or slot sounds. It's also strange because you don't hear any sling or target hits while the voice is (seemingly) constantly talking.

Not saying it's a bad thing, just an observation. Does look like a fun shooter. Would be nice if less lights were blinking everywhere when it says to hit the lot shot.

It's a solid $8995 game on my opinion. Too rich for this poor Italian.

I've donated to the point of dehydration!

It's a shame too. This pin looks very fun.

60,000 quarters and it's paid for! (Not including tax and shipping)

I would hope dollars are being used in today's market!

I play at barcades that charge $1 per play, even the older Williams 90's pins. That's why a new pin seems odd to be playing quarters.
But hey, It's pinball, it's all good.

Cmon for real.... We are both on a pinball forum on a Friday night. Neither of us has anything better to do.

And all I'm saying is quarters was the measure in the 80's and 90's. With todays prices, it's green paper.

Chill out dude. It's only pinball.

I'm 80% sarcasm, 10% comedy, and 11% alcohol. So I guess I'm hard to read sometimes.

Bottom line is I hate that all prices are rising faster than they should. I'm not bitter, just disappointed. But my posts are actually meant to be light-hearted. I know that doesn't always come through.

It's great to see all the new pins rolling out, lots of fun after such a drought in new releases.

Can someone adjust the settings and get video of less frequent multi balls? Seems easy enough and could put this debate to bed.

Yes, I meant on GF. Someone should stream GF with the multiballs scaled back.

Not being argumentative, but many people on this thread noted how the multiballs are to much and it may be a factor in why they are passing on GF.

Hence the need, in my opinion, for a stream with multi ball scaled back. See what can be achieved without the hit everything multiballs stacked on each other.