I'm curious as well to see what tells the game what "model" it is. Would be cool to get the Dialed In CE code for the custom messages on the display in the game.

All JJP has to do is code it for the LE if it’s not already in the code and add it as an add on accessory. I don’t think it would take anything away from CE owners to offer it to LE owners either. I still would have gotten the CE even if the same topper was already available for the LE.

It makes sound financial sense for them to offer it since it’s already designed and tooling is available to keep making them.

Further confirmation it’s likely already in the code.

At $1700 for a new Rush topper, the market agrees with you.

I’m all for JJP doing this. I don’t care if they make extra money from it, I want them to succeed and people would buy it so why not offer it.

Yep, my Rush topper is on order.

That's kind of my plan. If GF CE drops a bit and PF LE climbs a bit it could be an even swap down the road. Or at least a swap into an LE.

I can see the topper settings in the menu on my LE…not sure if it would work though.

Sounds promising! Thanks for checking and reporting. Hope you’re enjoying your game!

I picked up my LE today and my distro said he was allocated 3 CE's and had 9 people on the list the second it dropped. I personally think there's a segment out there that buys every CE (JJP) or LE (Stern) that's released.
I don't have have that kind of green but I'm sure there's at least 1000 others that do.

Ya think? I mean, a very keen observation to be sure..

Don’t have that kind of green also still ordered a CE. Cut my private expenses to almost 0 this and the next 2 months to somehow pay the CE money. Still have 6k to pay and atm don’t know where this will come from. In that regard allow me to point out I had to pay 3k EU import tax so my CE bill was 18k.

Bc of these heavy prices buyers bleed out. The releases this year were developed on the asset/crypto boom 18 months ago and now get payed by a wallet deathrattle bc times have changed. Another round of those prices cant be paid bc wallets are dead.

Well see who's laughing in a year or two. Remember this and hit me back then...

Selling my Rush before the topper came out and all the accessories was one of the best pinball moves for me to date!

This is the correct answer. If the topper is designed by the OEM to work only on the CE, then the code will only operate it if it's connected to a machine running CE software. The dongle determines this.

would generally interesting how the topper is connected, via Molex or USB-C or Cat5?
I don’t have a GF but saw onsite distributor that they changed under PF from Cat5 connection (like GnR) to USB. not the most solid solution I suspect

LOL, I see your logic. How did you fare in that sale?

Yeah. It's like if I would have kept it I would have been involved in the Rush accessions cash grab. So now that it is gone, I no longer have to worry about it!

Rush was a somewhat difficult sell. I didn't have people knocking down my door to buy it, that's for sure. I honestly think it's a good game but collectors seem to over look it or just don't care about it. I am guessing the theme has a big roll in it. For me... The game made me become more of a fan of the band because I really didn't know much about them when I bought the pin. In the end, it just did not have that lasting appeal for me like the other two games that I own. Rush is one of those games that the shots can feel so good when you make them and so bad when you don't. A miss to the time machine and a hit to the ramp to it made me feel like I was running the ball into a brick wall.

Slow sell doesnt surprise me. Rush had the same experience getting into the hall of fame.

I wouldnt know what you're talking about since I have a Pro...

Read on the internet that the pinball machine suffered from different sdtm. Here locally (internaute cafe, Tournai) about 30 games played and not a single ball sdtm. The flipper was perfectly adjusted. Looking forward to my purchase.

I just got mine set up tonight and played about a dozen games. I can confirm that SDTM was very rare and only happened when I didn't hit a clean shot on the ramps or orbits (which is fair, imo). The game shoots amazingly well with a great variety of shots. Some harder than others but super satisfying when you hit them. Hope you get your game soon! I think you'll love it.

Some of you know me as the sucker who made hot rail-synched cabinet lights for GNR. I own that machine and what started out as a passion project, I ended up making a handful of them for other GNR owners. A couple of people have asked me about making them for The Godfather but don’t have their machines yet, and if I were to take on the project, I’d want to verify a few things under the playfield and get a tester or two. If such a thing is of interest to you, and you have your LE (CEs already have their own cabinet lights), send me a PM! Heck, if you just have interest in them for your future machine send me a PM so I can figure out if a run would be worth it.

Here’s the lights in action on a GNR if you’re not even sure what I’m talking about. They add a whole new level of spectacle to an already spectacle-driven game

https://bit.ly/3InSybq

Definitely a fan of your hyperlytes. Easy install, nice clean look as well.

Yep, I've already got Front row seats to DJ 's HYPERLYTES show. Great mod. Very well done.

Does Godfather update automatically to 1.04 now (assuming you have Wi-Fi) or must we manually update the code like with past pins? Seems like we should be at the point where code updates like smart TVs, just click “yes” when it says updates available.

Automatic if you're connected via wifi. Manual is still available, too.

Any good streams with the latest code?

I guess here: https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1777630153

Streaming 1.04 some more tonight (with some cool giveaways too!). Info here https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/bro-do-you-even-pinball-weekly-livestream-thurs-8-pm-eastern/page/18#post-7503375

Find out tonight if it turns into a cat when the head is folded down!

PM sent

Spoiler, it becomes a horse!

No footage ( I've seen ) but he is included .

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I don’t see an automatic option on my LE. Only USB. On the JJP website, only info for update is USB. Do you see something I don’t?

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Have you connected it to your WiFi in the Settings->Network Settings? If that's connected correctly, you should get a "Download Update" option in addition to the USB Update.

This youtube video explains it on a GNR. I followed it on my GF and it was the same. Should be good to update over wifi after you follow the steps. Hope this helps!

Thanks! I’m sure I haven’t logged in yet. I’ll do the tomorrow.

Thanks guys!

This is amazing advertisement when you can get Slash to tweet about your pin!!!
He has 10 million followers!

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I played an LE for the first time yesterday and think the game is a blast. Nice shots, art looks great and the stained glass on the playfield looks particularly cool and very helpful. Anyway, ill be playing this on route many more times!

I had no idea anyone was actually working at JJP on a Saturday but Jen just called for my CE balance so I guess it’s coming soon!

FWIW, I played it last night on the Bro stream and absolutely loved it. It's potentially as good as Pirates, maybe better, too soon to tell. And I think Pirates is JJP's best.

The game looks absolutely beautiful in person, from the art, to the display, to the molds and powder coating. I don't think it could be better looking if it tried.

Shots were tight but intuitive and felt rewarding.

Only frustration I felt was getting STDM drains from the bad guy lock up top. I didn't have any drains off the upper flipper like others have experienced.

While Bro may be sponsored by JJP, that doesn't mean I love every game. This will be my first JJP game since Pirates and I can't tell you how excited I am to take delivery of GF. The last time I was this excited was when I got Pirates back in 2018.

Mirco

Not one mention of the sound package though lol

Overall sound ans AV was hit ans miss for me. Some music felt carnival like, callouts were ok, but still a nice overall package!

Not me, im subjective.. TS 4 will not grt another .25 from me lol. GF, many more.

Toy Story is way more entertaining than people say. I sold mine to fund these new games and I kinda miss it.
I’ll get the LE back in here someday. It’s very fun.

I'm watching your stream right now .
I think the Hobbit and GNR are way better games than Pirates but we all have different opinions .
One thing is certain , all the jjp games play and feel different .
And I agree The Godfather could be one of the best .

Haha, you noticed that quickly!

So sound...I'd say I'm neutral on it. It's not bad. When I heard Karl's stream, it seemed worse. In person, it seemed perfectly fine.

The sound stand outs as a weak point b/c everything else is stellar in the game. I'm an unabashed David Thiel fan and he's sorely missed.

So, in summary, sound is not bad, not great. "It gets the job done".

We should start a petition to get David Thiel on sound for all JJP games!!!!!!

I don’t think TS4 has anything to do with review and opinions of GF.The reason I say this with confidence is because a lot of the reviews are coming from people openly admitting they didn’t expect to like it that much