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JJP Godfather Hype / Discussion Thread

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#2901 1 year ago
Quoted from Blackice:

GF CE probably best looking pin of all time.

I can’t wait to see it at the show.
I realize I won’t be able to really check it out in a noisy environment but I’m still excited about seeing it.
I’m delighted over flipper feedback from early players .And it seems that early players have given solid reviews as a whole.

#2902 1 year ago

Anyone heard the Slash guitar solo in GF yet.
Didn’t see it on Karl stream.

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#2903 1 year ago

I'm all in on a CE!

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#2904 1 year ago
Quoted from Sako-TRG:

Anyone heard the Slash guitar solo in GF yet.
Didn’t see it on Karl stream.

Hard to shoehorn that iconic track into a game with funfair music.

There are many covers of Slash's Godfather tribute on YouTube, some of them actually better than the man himself. Some pretty talented kids out there.

Of course, the oldest marketing trick in the book is to make the trailer much more appealing than the actual game. See the magic I did with Heighway's Alien:

After we posted this, orders came in thick and fast. It was all bullshit - the game didn't even work properly when I shot it.

#2905 1 year ago
Quoted from Thunderbird:

Oh great defender of all things JJP, you sure have it out for Stern and constantly trying to pull them down to the same level as JJP. Sorry JJP poor quality issues have stung most of us over the years, far greater than Stern has ever done. My experience is Stern always takes care of most any issue, albeit takes them some time, but JJP has left me in every instance to my own remedies. JJP poor quality problems have been large and many, not just a minor few like Stern. For the record, not happy with exorbitant pricing from either company, but JJP takes the cake on that one.

I was in an argumentative mood last night .
All good mate .

#2906 1 year ago
Quoted from Sako-TRG:

Anyone heard the Slash guitar solo in GF yet.
Didn’t see it on Karl stream.

Maybe it's in the attract mode ?

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#2907 1 year ago
Quoted from Thunderbird:

LOL, just because I don’t list them any longer is not a reason to make incorrect assumptions. Definitely not a location player, that’s a ridiculous assumption, just because I choose not to list my games for an irrelevant perusal for others to take shots at. Stopped showing that years ago.

No pins

#2908 1 year ago

We need a poll on who is getting an LE or a CE.

#2909 1 year ago
Quoted from VisitorQ:

We need a poll on who is getting an LE or a CE.

I put one up

#2911 1 year ago
Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

See the magic I did

You don't say.

#2912 1 year ago
Quoted from Blackice:

GF CE probably best looking pin of all time.

At least from the aspect what is the most suitable pin for the living room (when game room is full). Dont see any other pin that oozes that much dignity and class. Also bc of the red of the roman legions, the Ferrarri horse plunge and the ceasarian lion attachments.

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#2914 1 year ago
Quoted from Zablon:

Me either, that game is amazeballs.

Game is great artwork meh

#2915 1 year ago

I'm calling this the official owners club , it was started two days ago .
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-godfather-club-keep-it-in-the-family#post-7463235

#2916 1 year ago
Quoted from Blackice:

GF CE probably best looking pin of all time.

Guess you forgot about BM66 SLE...¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#2917 1 year ago
Quoted from kidchrisso:

Guess you forgot about BM66 SLE...

The only think the SLE had going for it was the foiled cabinet decals with the relief to them. They were AMAZING. But the crappy fake pinstriping with vinyl cutouts that came off as soon as you used the pin screamed cheap, and Stern didn't even have warranty stock for the pretty cab decals when they failed - and they did. My coin door area one delaminated and Stern told me, "Sorry, charlie!" we don't have replacement stock to fix that - either paid or under warranty.

No, the SLE was not great. Last time I buy one.

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#2918 1 year ago

I was in for a CE last week after the reveal, and I have been keeping my eye on the Pulp Fiction reveal because I am big fan of the movie. So I will say this about the pricing strategies of these two games, Godfather is leaps and bounds ahead of Pulp Fiction. Alphanumeric displays on Pulp Fiction? Are you kidding me? I know and understand what look they were going for with this game, but this level of game is not worth the $9500 LE price tag. This makes me really happy I bought the Godfather CE last week. Way more going on in a JJP game compared to Pulp Fiction, and JJP makes some of the best looking games ever made.

#2919 1 year ago
Quoted from mmuglia:

I was in for a CE last week after the reveal, and I have been keeping my eye on the Pulp Fiction reveal because I am big fan of the movie. So I will say this about the pricing strategies of these two games, Godfather is leaps and bounds ahead of Pulp Fiction. Alphanumeric displays on Pulp Fiction? Are you kidding me? I know and understand what look they were going for with this game, but this level of game is not worth the $9500 LE price tag. This makes me really happy I bought the Godfather CE last week. Way more going on in a JJP game compared to Pulp Fiction, and JJP makes some of the best looking games ever made.

Yes, personally like GF more as a theme and game looks fantastic - just hoping to JJP delivers more of it integrated - callouts and clips for the price.
Ideally no Kingpin 2.0 generic mobster pin.
Pulp has no screen but delivers tons of callouts and tracks from the movie and that’s pretty impressive.

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#2920 1 year ago

My LE ships Friday! Looking forward to experiencing it for myself. I always respect everyone’s personal opinion, that’s a big reason pinball is great - lots of games to pick from and to each their own. Nobody is ever “wrong” about how they feel. (Except about GZ, nobody can possibly dislike that game! ) When new games come out, there is usually a frenzy of polarizing early reviews. The game is terrible…the game is amazing. Then the code either catches up or doesn’t, and the consensus settles in. JJP builds a unique product, and they have their fans and their critics. My very first pin was WOZ back in 2016. I’ve owned it twice, DILE twice, the Hobbit and Wonka once each. But i eventually sold them all. My guess is GF will be a very good JJP, perhaps not a home run at capturing The Godfather as well as some would like. But it should be a well-made pin with some fun shots, hopefully very good code and maybe some new design features. My fav JJP to play is still DILE. Best looking JJP for me is WOZ, but GNR, Hobbit, TS4 and POTC are all close behind. The code on Hobbit is pretty great. The music and lightshow and presentation on GNR is dazzling. The toys on POTC and WOZ are many. The family-friendly, easy-to-play approachability of TS4 is nice. Can they put it all together for 2024? Maybe on BTTF, Goonies, Alice in Wonderland??? I personally feel JJP sparked the current pinball renaissance we are living in. When WOZ was announced in 2011, there was Stern, and that’s about it, cutting costs and feeling no pressure to improve or compete. That all changed with WOZ, followed by CGC, American, Spooky, P3, etc. The current prices are bonkers, but the industry is thriving, and that’s good.

#2921 1 year ago
Quoted from mmuglia:

I was in for a CE last week after the reveal, and I have been keeping my eye on the Pulp Fiction reveal because I am big fan of the movie. So I will say this about the pricing strategies of these two games, Godfather is leaps and bounds ahead of Pulp Fiction. Alphanumeric displays on Pulp Fiction? Are you kidding me? I know and understand what look they were going for with this game, but this level of game is not worth the $9500 LE price tag. This makes me really happy I bought the Godfather CE last week. Way more going on in a JJP game compared to Pulp Fiction, and JJP makes some of the best looking games ever made.

I agree, but also sort of disagree. That CE is not worth 13k either. They are both priced too high for what they are. If you were comparing the LE, then yes...I kind of agree.

#2922 1 year ago

The deep reds, golds, and the burgundy legs on the CE are really striking and rich. It’s a stunning looker. The LE is also very sharp with the red, gold and black. But, instead of the gangster thug up the middle, couldn’t we have Fredo to slap around??? I know it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart.
RIP John Cazale.

#2923 1 year ago

I am out with this one. As of now with all new pinballs out lately, only one I like is Godfather, which is not the best theme but everything, playfield, art, play,etc, looks good to me.

#2924 1 year ago
Quoted from pbjksb:

As of now with all new pinballs out lately, only one I like is Godfather, which is not the best theme but everything, playfield, art, play,etc, looks good to me.

Go for it! Sorry, had to. Wasn’t sure if you needed your arm twisted or not.

#2925 1 year ago

It’s kind of funny how some have tried to rationalize the price on JB SLE and Pulp Fiction.But criticize the shit out of The Godfather pricing

#2926 1 year ago
Quoted from romulusx:

It’s kind of funny how some have tried to rationalize the price on JB SLE and Pulp Fiction.But criticize the shit out of The Godfather pricing

Can we agree that toppers have reached a point that they are now over the top cool and you almost feel like you are missing out if you don't splurge on the version with them?

#2927 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinkitten:

But, instead of the gangster thug up the middle, couldn’t we have Fredo to slap around??? I know it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart.
RIP John Cazale.

Fredo bash toy! I love this idea!

"I'm smart and I want respect!"

"Let Fredo take care of some Mickey Mouse nighclub somewhere!"

#2928 1 year ago
Quoted from Zablon:

Can we agree that toppers have reached a point that they are now over the top cool and you almost feel like you are missing out if you don't splurge on the version with them?

Really depends on the machine/manufacturer. There are still high highs and LOW lows in toppers.

#2929 1 year ago
Quoted from Zablon:

Can we agree that toppers have reached a point that they are now over the top cool and you almost feel like you are missing out if you don't splurge on the version with them?

Sure

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#2930 1 year ago

LE has arrived.

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#2931 1 year ago
Quoted from ToolfanJeff:

LE has arrived.
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#2932 1 year ago
Quoted from ToolfanJeff:

LE has arrived.
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Lucky man!

#2933 1 year ago
Quoted from ToolfanJeff:

LE has arrived.
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Nothing better than when it arrives and the box is perfect.

#2934 1 year ago
Quoted from ToolfanJeff:

LE has arrived.
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Congrats! Set that baby up and report back.

#2935 1 year ago

When do the CE’s get released, I’m wondering?

#2936 1 year ago
Quoted from Zablon:

Can we agree that toppers have reached a point that they are now over the top cool and you almost feel like you are missing out if you don't splurge on the version with them?

Absolutely! CCr, The Godfather, and now the Pulp Fiction topper. All amazing! I think Pulp Fiction wins though, it's pretty incredible.

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#2937 1 year ago
Quoted from mmuglia:

Absolutely! CCr, The Godfather, and now the Pulp Fiction topper. All amazing! I think Pulp Fiction wins though, it's pretty incredible.

Both toppers are awesome!
I love the Jack Rabbit Slim’s scene.
The only problem with it is the sculpts look kind of shiny cake topper cheap and I was surprised they spun like a music box dancer.
The Godfather topper is badass but I was wondering do that only twist and shoot when you match??

#2938 1 year ago
Quoted from McDoom:

When do the CE’s get released, I’m wondering?

Per JJP they are going on the line this Spring. Should begin shipping by May.

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#2939 1 year ago

SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE GODFATHER ART:

I have been very busy lately and probably should have clarified this sooner, but I had not heard to chatter about the Godfather art, and for that matter, me being given credit for something I did not do.

Due to circumstances, I was brought into the project after the playfield had already been in progress. Jesper Abels from Netherlands, an understudy of Jean-Paul DeWin is responsible for the playfield art. He ended up getting into the skin of my style of portrait art, but it's all him with the exception of the Al Pacino illustration on the LE drain area. He did a FANTASTIC job and deserves full credit.

I am responsible for the cabinet sides, cabinet fronts, backbox sides,backglasses for both editions, and the art blades and backboard on the Collectors Edition.

I also had nothing to do with the sculptures in the playfield, as well as the art deco sculptures on the lock-down and legs. That was Eric's brainchild and I don't know who sculpted them. Eric also designed the CE armor.

I'm very proud of my work on this project, as well as having to opportunity to work with Eric, JP and Jesper, who's talents are all astronomical.

I hope this clears things up, and gives credit where credit is due... and I hope you enjoy the game. There's a lot of blood, sweat and tears that went into it for over a year, simply with the goal of thrilling you with exciting pinball play and visuals.

Cheers,
Christopher Franchi
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#2940 1 year ago
Quoted from Metaluna5:

SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE GODFATHER ART:
I have been very busy lately and probably should have clarified this sooner, but I had not heard to chatter about the Godfather art, and for that matter, me being given credit for something I did not do.
Due to circumstances, I was brought into the project after the playfield had already been in progress. Jesper Abels from Netherlands, an understudy of Jean-Paul DeWin is responsible for the playfield art. He ended up getting into the skin of my style of portrait art, but it's all him with the exception of the Al Pacino illustration on the LE drain area. He did a FANTASTIC job and deserves full credit.
I am responsible for the cabinet sides, cabinet fronts, backbox sides,backglasses for both editions, and the art blades and backboard on the Collectors Edition.
I also had nothing to do with the sculptures in the playfield, as well as the art deco sculptures on the lock-down and legs. That was Eric's brainchild and I don't know who sculpted them. Eric also designed the CE armor.
I'm very proud of my work on this project, as well as having to opportunity to work with Eric, JP and Jesper, who's talents are all astronomical.
I hope this clears things up, and gives credit where credit is due... and I hope you enjoy the game. There's a lot of blood, sweat and tears that went into it for over a year, simply with the goal of thrilling you with exciting pinball play and visuals.
Cheers,
Christopher Franchi
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Thank you sir

#2941 1 year ago
Quoted from Metaluna5:

SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE GODFATHER ART:
I have been very busy lately and probably should have clarified this sooner, but I had not heard to chatter about the Godfather art, and for that matter, me being given credit for something I did not do.
Due to circumstances, I was brought into the project after the playfield had already been in progress. Jesper Abels from Netherlands, an understudy of Jean-Paul DeWin is responsible for the playfield art. He ended up getting into the skin of my style of portrait art, but it's all him with the exception of the Al Pacino illustration on the LE drain area. He did a FANTASTIC job and deserves full credit.
I am responsible for the cabinet sides, cabinet fronts, backbox sides,backglasses for both editions, and the art blades and backboard on the Collectors Edition.
I also had nothing to do with the sculptures in the playfield, as well as the art deco sculptures on the lock-down and legs. That was Eric's brainchild and I don't know who sculpted them. Eric also designed the CE armor.
I'm very proud of my work on this project, as well as having to opportunity to work with Eric, JP and Jesper, who's talents are all astronomical.
I hope this clears things up, and gives credit where credit is due... and I hope you enjoy the game. There's a lot of blood, sweat and tears that went into it for over a year, simply with the goal of thrilling you with exciting pinball play and visuals.
Cheers,
Christopher Franchi
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Nothing that I respect more than someone who comes across humble and gives credit where credit is due. The team did a fabulous job.

#2942 1 year ago
Quoted from romulusx:

It’s kind of funny how some have tried to rationalize the price on JB SLE and Pulp Fiction.But criticize the shit out of The Godfather pricing

Not sure what you've been reading. Most people think the JB SLE pricing is insanity. Truth is I see the same "I can buy anything pinsiders" rationalizing their JB SLE purchase alongside the GF CE purchase. PF looks pretty cool and has a ton of sh going for it. Topper, mirrors, sculpts, theme, call-outs etc and at $9500. I like GF, but I'll take Pacino in Scarface over Brando 10 out of 10 times. The CE has so much color and sh hanging off it i don't know what to think. But 100% the giant monitor with eight different things I don't understand reminds me of casino slot machines. I really hope GF doesn't suck after the FOMO wears off. I just feel like I've been here before with GnR and TS4.

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#2943 1 year ago

Played some more GF and it’s a cool game. I like the center toy and starting to figure out how to control the flippers.

Only big complaint now is the endless multi balls as well as the price.

I’ll be looking to buy a used one or trade for one at some point.

#2944 1 year ago
Quoted from smokinhos:

Not sure what you've been reading. Most people think the JB SLE pricing is insanity. Truth is I see the same "I can buy anything pinsiders" rationalizing their JB SLE purchase alongside the GF CE purchase. PF looks pretty cool and has a ton of sh going for it. Topper, mirrors, sculpts, theme, call-outs etc and at $9500. I like GF, but I'll take Pacino in Scarface over Brando 10 out of 10 times. The CE has so much color and sh hanging off it i don't know what to think. But 100% to me the giant monitor with eight different things I don't understand reminds me of a casino slot machines. I really hope GF doesn't suck after the FOMO wears off. I just feel like I've been here before with GnR and TS4.
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Unbelievable?

#2945 1 year ago
Quoted from smokinhos:

The CE has so much color and sh hanging off it i don't know what to think. But 100% the giant monitor with eight different things I don't understand reminds me of casino slot machines.
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I respect your opinion.

I keep seeing this reference to slot machines and I am sorry to say, this criticism seems unfair. Not specific to your comment per say but the comparison in general. All slot machines, video games, jukeboxes and anything else that accepts your $$ will "attract" you by design so yes flashy visuals and soothing sounds are in common for sure but they are apples/oranges beyond the surface. Using a larger screen is inevitable just like we don't have a 27" TV anymore either... Why aren't people saying slot machines remind them of pinball since pinball had screens first while slots still had reels. I just don't see how this is a valid critisism. IMO the GF should only be compared to other pins. Not being familiar with the game resolves itself with playtime.

#2946 1 year ago
Quoted from hank527:

Only big complaint now is the endless multi balls as well as the price.

Complaining about "endless multiballs" is idiotic. Adjust the settings and make them harder to start if you want.

The price complaining though, is well justified and I'm still trying to get over it myself.
I might have to wait for the secondary market on this game just because I don't want to blow so much cash on on game.

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#2947 1 year ago
Quoted from zaphX:

Complaining about "endless multiballs" is idiotic. Adjust the settings and make them harder to start if you want.

I keep hearing this, but it's a band-aid at best. I don't mind if one or two MBs are easy to start. What I mind is that when you start one, everything else follows. Okay, make them all harder to start. Now I get the megastack on ball three instead of ball one. What I want is to play a little bit of MB and a mode or two on each ball, spread out so I can enjoy them. And make me start a mode before the MB so there's at least a modicum of strategy.

#2948 1 year ago
Quoted from zaphX:

Complaining about "endless multiballs" is idiotic. Adjust the settings and make them harder to start if you want.
The price complaining though, is well justified and I'm still trying to get over it myself.
I might have to wait for the secondary market on this game just because I don't want to blow so much cash on on game.

It seems to me that people are complaining about the heavy use of multiball to advance through modes, such as in Pirates and GnR. This is a legitimate criticism. Whereas multiball has historically been a "reward" that you work towards, a sort of epiphany moment in pinball, Keith has turned that around in his rules to use multiball more to strategically work through the game. I personally liked it on GnR, and found it annoying on Pirates for some reason. No clue how it would feel here.

#2949 1 year ago
Quoted from Laithan:

I keep seeing this reference to slot machines and I am sorry to say, this criticism seems unfair. Not specific to your comment per say but the comparison in general. All slot machines, video games, jukeboxes and anything else that accepts your $$ will "attract" you by design so yes flashy visuals and soothing sounds are in common for sure but they are apples/oranges beyond the surface.

Slot machines are apex predators. They don't care about class, style, or vibe, they exist to grab your attention, and hold it until you run out of money. They are ruthless, exploit weakness, and prey on addicts. They're designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, and are all flash over substance. They don't reward skill, or dedication.

Which doesn't mean you can't have fun playing slots, I don't care what you do with your money.

But they're hardly something to be favorably compared to, and when people say something is like a slot machine they're not being nice for a reason.

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#2950 1 year ago
Quoted from zaphX:

Complaining about "endless multiballs" is idiotic. Adjust the settings and make them harder to start if you want.
The price complaining though, is well justified and I'm still trying to get over it myself.
I might have to wait for the secondary market on this game just because I don't want to blow so much cash on on game.

I don’t think it’s idiotic, nor are people’s opinions idiotic. JJP is creating code with far too much multiball. It can be minimized somewhat in settings, but as others noted above, many people want to play these games as intended. I don’t know how much you can limit the ease with which mb modes begin, but if they are part of the necessary progress to advance in the game, it’s still an issue. Some may not be bothered by it. Some may like it. Others, myself included, would like mb to feel earned and an important “bonus” that feels rewarding, not confusing because they start so quickly or easily it’s not always clear why they began at all. Just my opinion!

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