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JJP Godfather Hype / Discussion Thread

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#2551 1 year ago

Anyone know where this streaming of GF is at 530 pacific time ? Link?

#2552 1 year ago
Quoted from Beechwood:

60,000 quarters and it's paid for! (Not including tax and shipping)
I would hope dollars are being used in today's market!

Since the quarters are not flowing into CEs tonight your math is wrong - but I guess your version sounds more sensational and negative, so mission accomplished.

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#2553 1 year ago
Quoted from Jason_Jehosaphat:

Tony Montana of Scarface fame went the ostentatious route, with his gross, nouveau-riche mansion in the Miami hills.

This would have been better as Scarface, the sculpt in the middle could be Tony instead of a cartoon gangster and he could shout "say hello to my little friend!" and spray the playfield when you start multiball. Scarface posters were so popular when I was younger, my generation would eat it up.

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#2554 1 year ago
Quoted from wcbrandes:

Anyone know where this streaming of GF is at 530 pacific time ? Link?

https://www.twitch.tv/flipnoutpinball

#2555 1 year ago
Quoted from apessino:

Since the quarters are not flowing into CEs tonight your math is wrong - but I guess your version sounds more sensational and negative, so mission accomplished.

I play at barcades that charge $1 per play, even the older Williams 90's pins. That's why a new pin seems odd to be playing quarters.
But hey, It's pinball, it's all good.

#2556 1 year ago
Quoted from Beechwood:

60,000 quarters and it's paid for! (Not including tax and shipping)
I would hope dollars are being used in today's market!

Damn this shit gets old.Don’t you have anything better to do?

#2557 1 year ago

Watching ie's stream, aside from the Godfather elements being awkwardly tacked on, I'm not sure I understood how this is supposed to feel like you are a mafia Don building your chosen faction's influence/power. It felt like a lot of random elements, not like you were clearly doing something. Maybe it feels more focused actually playing it? Not sure.

And as a aside, I wish pinball streams weren't top down and were more at a head on angle. Yes I get the perfect camera angle is probably where the player is standing.

#2558 1 year ago

Mid game spoiler - just like the godfather I remembered.

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#2559 1 year ago
Quoted from Aurich:

This would have been better as Scarface, the sculpt in the middle could be Tony instead of a cartoon gangster and he could shout "say hello to my little friend!" and spray the playfield when you start multiball. Scarface posters were so popular when I was younger, my generation would eat it up.
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You really should just make a game of your own.It seems like you’ve got it all figured out from artwork to sound.I heard making a pinball machine is easy go ahead and give it your best shot.I promise not to be too critical critiquing your game.

#2560 1 year ago
Quoted from Beechwood:

I play at barcades that charge $1 per play, even the older Williams 90's pins. That's why a new pin seems odd to be playing quarters.
But hey, It's pinball, it's all good.

That was not the point, but OK. I suspect that "dumping quarters into a pinball machine" has become an idiom at this point, like "hanging up the phone."

But I agree that pinball is all good.

#2561 1 year ago
Quoted from delt31:

Mid game spoiler - just like the godfather I remembered.
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Anxious for your review of the game later

#2562 1 year ago
Quoted from romulusx:

You really should just make a game of your own.It seems like you’ve got it all figured out from artwork to sound.I heard making a pinball machine is easy go ahead and give it your best shot.I promise not to be too critical critiquing your game.

Paid JJP gatekeeper, you never give up…

#2563 1 year ago

Been here for three hours playing. Met a ton of great people and I have a lot to share.

Happy to contribute to #heliconbrewery in the process. Great people here.

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#2564 1 year ago
Quoted from romulusx:

You really should just make a game of your own.It seems like you’ve got it all figured out from artwork to sound.I heard making a pinball machine is easy go ahead and give it your best shot.I promise not to be too critical critiquing your game.

Ah, the grade school classic "don't criticize unless you can do it better".

I feel like I have a good grasp on what makes pinball atmosphere honestly, and plenty of experience being criticized. Which is why I never make it personal, and I've praised things I like, including the really good art and what looks like a very fun layout.

But nobody needs to have worked in pinball to have an opinion. All you seem to have contributed to this thread is bitching about people being mean to JJP. Every time you quote someone to complain you just amplify them, and literally no one is going to stop posting their thoughts because you berate them. You've got to realize that right?

To quote another post in this thread "Don’t you have anything better to do?"

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#2565 1 year ago
Quoted from Thunderbird:

Paid JJP gatekeeper, you never give up…

Oh shit what the hell am I doing in this JJP Godfather hype thread?
Maybe I should be in the Foo thread shitting on everything I can.
You sir are a broken record always criticizing

#2566 1 year ago
Quoted from Aurich:

Ah, the grade school classic "don't criticize unless you can do it better".
I feel like I have a good grasp on what makes pinball atmosphere honestly, and plenty of experience being criticized. Which is why I never make it personal, and I've praised things I like, including the really good art and what looks like a very fun layout.
But nobody needs to have worked in pinball to have an opinion. All you seem to have contributed to this thread is bitching about people being mean to JJP. Every time you quote someone to complain you just amplify them, and literally no one is going to stop posting their thoughts because you berate them. You've got to realize that right?
To quote another post in this thread "Don’t you have anything better to do?"

No he doesn’t have anything better to do, except troll JJP threads to make sure his stock holdings don’t go down. The number one broken record in this forum. Can’t stand any critical thinking about anything JJP does. That’s what this forum is all about, critiquing artwork and designs.

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#2567 1 year ago
Quoted from Thunderbird:

No he doesn’t have anything better to do, except troll JJP threads to make sure his stock holdings don’t go down. The number one broken record in this forum. Can’t stand any critical critic about anything JJP does. That’s what this forum is all about, critiquing artwork and designs.

I’ve criticized shortcomings of JJP games!You guys continue your circle jerk I’m going to watch SDTM Godfather stream

#2568 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:

If you are sober I’d be disappointed in you.
Nobody should listen to me. I’m the guy that spent $6k on a piece of wood and some random parts glued to it.
It will be one of a kind!
Come to think of it $15k is a F ing bargain.

And we thank you for it! 3 months of internet awesomeness in the making history ha.

#2569 1 year ago
Quoted from romulusx:

Damn this shit gets old.Don’t you have anything better to do?

Cmon for real.... We are both on a pinball forum on a Friday night. Neither of us has anything better to do.

And all I'm saying is quarters was the measure in the 80's and 90's. With todays prices, it's green paper.

Chill out dude. It's only pinball.

#2570 1 year ago
Quoted from Beechwood:

Cmon for real.... We are both on a pinball forum on a Friday night. Neither of us has anything better to do.
And all I'm saying is quarters was the measure in the 80's and 90's. With todays prices, it's green paper.
Chill out dude. It's only pinball.

To be honest, you are kinda coming across as jealous or pissed you cant plunk down the $$$ i suppose I could, but why? It will be for sale less than msrp in a few years.

Aurich hit it, should have been Scarface with a different sound director..

#2571 1 year ago

Watching the stream. I asked twice how each MB is started. Ignored both times. Maybe it’s because I am critical that every game they play has at least two MBs started.

But honest question. Does anyone know how to start them? Is it just a couple of switch hits to qualify?

#2572 1 year ago
Quoted from Roostking:

To be honest, you are kinda coming across as jealous or pissed you cant plunk down the $$$ i suppose I could, but why? It will be for sale less than msrp in a few years.
Aurich hit it, should have been Scarface with a different sound director..

I'm 80% sarcasm, 10% comedy, and 11% alcohol. So I guess I'm hard to read sometimes.

Bottom line is I hate that all prices are rising faster than they should. I'm not bitter, just disappointed. But my posts are actually meant to be light-hearted. I know that doesn't always come through.

It's great to see all the new pins rolling out, lots of fun after such a drought in new releases.

#2573 1 year ago

I read that one MB is stared from a skill shot. I guess I’m sadistic but I like to work for a Multiball like TWD or heck Diald In! Has one MB that you need to complete four separate qualifications I hardly ever see this but it’s something of an event not just from a few switch hits.

#2574 1 year ago

Why do all recent JJP games give off slot machine vibes...

Just because you can use all the colours doesn't mean you should.

#2575 1 year ago

Wow Scorbit is being taken out of all games

#2576 1 year ago
Quoted from Mattyk:

Wow Scorbit is being taken out of all games

Where did you hear that? That's interesting because I've found scorbit to be a bit amateur in it's implementation.

#2577 1 year ago
Quoted from Beechwood:

I'm 80% sarcasm, 10% comedy, and 11% alcohol. So I guess I'm hard to read sometimes.
Bottom line is I hate that all prices are rising faster than they should. I'm not bitter, just disappointed. But my posts are actually meant to be light-hearted. I know that doesn't always come through.
It's great to see all the new pins rolling out, lots of fun after such a drought in new releases.

Yea normally its easy to read but you kinda keep pushing it. All good man!

#2578 1 year ago
Quoted from rai:

I read that one MB is stared from a skill shot. I guess I’m sadistic but I like to work for a Multiball like TWD or heck Diald In! Has one MB that you need to complete four separate qualifications I hardly ever see this but it’s something of an event not just from a few switch hits.

Looks like maybe two can be started from skill shot. Sicily and compound

#2579 1 year ago
Quoted from Dreadreaper:

Where did you hear that? That's interesting because I've found scorbit to be a bit amateur in it's implementation.

Just announced on the stream. Sounds like the situation isn’t good between the two companies. They didn’t want to go too much into it

#2580 1 year ago
Quoted from Halfwasted:

Why do all recent JJP games give off slot machine vibes...
Just because you can use all the colours doesn't mean you should.

Search wonka, 007, GF and casino. You shall find your answer heres a quick preview, look familiar?

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#2581 1 year ago

Watching stream and even Eric is having very short ball times, with bricking shots that just fall SDTM. If a person likes tough shooting games with quick ball times, this could be the one.

#2582 1 year ago
Quoted from Halfwasted:

Why do all recent JJP games give off slot machine vibes...
Just because you can use all the colours doesn't mean you should.

Their sound design is pretty bad. And the lighting... don't get me started on the lighting.

Quite disrespectful to Mario Puzo's masterpiece novel to use comical stereotypes for the callouts and the main toy.

At least hire voice actors that can... y'know.... act.

#2583 1 year ago

The truth is if I didn't think this game was cool I wouldn't bother complaining about it. I never critiqued Toy Story in threads because I honestly just don't like anything about it, it's not worth spending energy on.

Godfather has so much more potential. But forgive me, I'm going to beat this horse some more because I think it really needs some attention from JJP to improve things. I pulled up Karl's stream on YouTube to watch some more, and just skipped ahead since I already watched live. Ended up at 1:40:49 here:

I had to rewind and count, inside of one minute the game told Karl to shoot the scoop 5 times. Karl even says "shoot the scoop, shoot the scoop" because it won't stop harassing him.

It's excessive! Chill out game.

Meanwhile I didn't hear a callout for Extra Ball being lit, which seems way more important than a generic scoop nag. Maybe the next code update could balance some of that some more.

#2584 1 year ago
Quoted from Aurich:

The truth is if I didn't think this game was cool I wouldn't bother complaining about it. I never critiqued Toy Story in threads because I honestly just don't like anything about it, it's not worth spending energy on.
Godfather has so much more potential. But forgive me, I'm going to beat this horse some more because I think it really needs some attention from JJP to improve things. I pulled up Karl's stream on YouTube to watch some more, and just skipped ahead since I already watched live. Ended up at 1:40:49 here:

I had to rewind and count, inside of one minute the game told Karl to shoot the scoop 5 times. Karl even says "shoot the scoop, shoot the scoop" because it won't stop harassing him.
It's excessive! Chill out game.
Meanwhile I didn't hear a callout for Extra Ball being lit, which seems way more important than a generic scoop nag. Maybe the next code update could balance some of that some more.

Isnt that part of the problem, JJP seems to abandon the code. At least thats the complaint with Erics previous 2 games. Hopefully nobody bought this cause FOMO.

Has Eric ever actually addressed lingering code from multiple pins?

#2585 1 year ago

No JJP team never talks about code...Keefer chimes in here and there , always say it's coming.

#2586 1 year ago
Quoted from Mattyk:

Watching the stream. I asked twice how each MB is started. Ignored both times. Maybe it’s because I am critical that every game they play has at least two MBs started.
But honest question. Does anyone know how to start them? Is it just a couple of switch hits to qualify?

Each MB is represented in one of the four main sections of the LCD. There’s a text blurb saying what needs to be hit for each one. One is sling & pop hits. One is defeating bad guys. One is locking on the right lock/captive area. And one is locking through the left orbit.

#2587 1 year ago
Quoted from Roostking:

Isnt that part of the problem, JJP seems to abandon the code. At least thats the complaint with Erics previous 2 games. Hopefully nobody bought this cause FOMO.
Has Eric ever actually addressed lingering code from multiple pins?

A couple years ago on stream they said no updates for Pirates until the final wizard mode is done. Even though there’s a bunch of fixes and tweaks that need to be made and which have been in beta for over two years now. Pretty poor way to treat customers who bought that game.

#2588 1 year ago
Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

Their sound design is pretty bad. And the lighting... don't get me started on the lighting.
Quite disrespectful to Mario Puzo's masterpiece novel to use comical stereotypes for the callouts and the main toy.
At least hire voice actors that can... y'know.... act.

I’m not sure if JJP tried to hire Al Pacino for custom callouts but that would have fit the theme better even if he doesn’t sound exactly like his character anymore. Going from hiring Slash for GNR and then Tim Allen, Annie Pots, and Tom Hanks brother for TS to this is a big change. The main custom callouts are ok for a generic mobster announcer guy but wow are those for the other characters lackluster.

#2589 1 year ago

I assume the stream is over all I’m getting is elevator music

#2590 1 year ago
Quoted from Concretehardt:

I assume the stream is over all I’m getting is elevator music

No, you’re hearing the background music for Godfather.

#2591 1 year ago

One concern I have after watching Karl and tonight’s SDTM stream is I only saw one combo shot with the upper flipper to a ramp. 98% upper flipper shots getting bricked. Anyone who has played the LE so far have feedback?

#2592 1 year ago
Quoted from mtp78:

No JJP team never talks about code...Keefer chimes in here and there , always say it's coming.

They did say at the end of stream 2 code updates coming next week! 1.04 Tuesday then 1.05 end of the week

#2593 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Group #1 member. Notice how they don’t list any games they actually have. Brothers of Jimmy West?
Hyperbole. “Nothing fun about it”.

“Unless you currently own multiple home games, anything you say is invalid” is one of the worst Pinside takes…

But I do agree there are a lot of JJP trolls here.

#2594 1 year ago

Do we think the code is pretty much done?

#2595 1 year ago
Quoted from cooked71:

Do we think the code is pretty much done?

Sounds like it .Few more videos and sound tweaks here and there.Eric made a point to say this is code 1.0 all modes are in the game.
I took that as take it or leave it.

#2596 1 year ago

Played this game for more than 4 hours. Thrilled to support #heliconbrewery and to tip my server well b/c remember fellas, if you’re in a position to think about buying a toy for 15k, you take care of the people serving you. And shout out to hupchallenge who told me he streams and the kid can play pinball.

OK here we go.

Let me just mention upfront the thing that impressed me the most by this game - the flipper feel. THANK GOD - JJP, you did it. I was told TS4 started it but after playing that game…..maybe? Wasn’t conclusive. This game - no doubt. Everyone agreed that I played with. So JJP has finally addressed one of the biggest problems. I would love to retro fit this in my Wonka btw. But hey - most important problem fixed b/c they always pack the game more than stern and code is deep so nothing else to worry about right? Well maybe…….no.

Up front disclaimer: This is not for CE owners who are reading this and just getting triggered to defend the choice they made. This is not meant for the @iceman44’s of the world also. You know - the ones who don’t care about cost, they just want the game. But I will also say that I have 15k ready to go and if I were to spend it today, I’m ready. I only mention that b/c I can easily spend this money if worth it. I also LOVE godfather. I’m not some guy living in the Midwest who has heard about GF b/c of the internet or thinks Olive Garden is good Italian. I know this movie. I love this movie.

This game is not Godfather - after 4 hrs, it’s not even close. And for Eric to say everything from GF that was significant was injected into this game is an absolute lie. Just like when those two from Flippin N Out (or sorry, SDTM!) say that shots are the new toys, they are being dishonest. But more on those dreamboats later.

So positives:

- Flippers - thank you JJP. Feel Great. Much closer to stern and kill my wonka’s.
- Shots - 29 paths so what is there not to like? Actually……well, more on that later but this is really about the initial layout. I love the godzilla bumper and the shots in general as they do feel fresh. Although there is a major SDTM shot….
- the assets from the GF, as limited as they are, are implemented well. More on this later.
- build quality…..good. I was playing with a Scooby next to me and although I think spooky is making progress, JJPs stand out. Nice touch with the translite lights around the entire thing. RIP lermods mod for this. You taught them well!
- Challenge - this game is hard. SDTM shot unless you hold that left flipper top up - which is annoying. But it’s hard and I don’t mind that. I rather a shorter player than long.
- Interrogation video clip is awesome. Same with game over, Match and extra ball.

“Areas of focus”

Major takeaway…….and I felt the same on stream. THIS IS NOT GODFATHER. I can’t make this anymore clear. Shame on JJP for taking the licensor for a ride and shame on Erik for saying all the key scenes are in this game. It’s not even close. I literally counted…….prob less than 1 min of video in total and we made it fairly far in the game. If you want to double that sure - but then you would be crazy and it still would be 2 min. What is going on Keith and Eric? I know Meryl doesn’t want Fredo but did she always say 7 second transition clips at most?

NO TOYS.

This is the most Barron JJP yet. I thought I was losing my mind after playing this for almost 4 hours. How could this feel EVEN LESS than Toy Story 4? No, it couldn’t be. First impression when I came up to the game was wow, this is the most barren game from JJP ever. And I’m not a newb. I’m someone who knows wtf is going on in this hobby. My WOZ and other games speak for that. I know what is packed. So I went over to TS4 and I was pissed. I HATE TS4 but GD - that game has more in it than GF. Proof? Jump ramp, spinning circle, toy that pops up. Garbage right for 15k CE? Well GF? A toy that spins. NOT interactive, doesn’t do anything besides look terrible in a GF game b/c it’s cartoonish and is SO out of place. Like comical b/c the rest of package has nothing in line with this sculp. But wait - you have that GF sculp right? Well it does NOTHING. Literally nothing and the lack of arms and completely different style to the toy with arms next to it, the contrast is really obvious.

And guys - diverters? Here’s my feedback on these after playing. Sure it might put the ball in 29 diff places but what’s important is what am I shooting? NOT what is coming back at me b/c that isn’t tactical. Half the time I couldn’t see where the ball was coming from but most importantly, it wasn’t better b/c of it. It certainly wasn’t a toy. Special plug to my friends at SDTM. After playing this game, I want to call out what a JOKE it now is as they are distributors. Greg and Zach - you have my cell, you texted me earlier asking to understand more. I responded - let’s do it live for pinside! Constructive as always ; )

Call Outs - I’ll sew you up!

Look, if you think these are great call outs, then you need to check into a mental institution b/c you’re crazy and have terrible taste. yes - I’ll just say it. These call outs are borderline offensive to an Italian American like myself. It’s like they found some guys in Indiana to run through some terrible dialogue while they’re eating their dominos in the most over the top dialogue you have ever heard. Of 10 lines you’ll hear, 2 are OK, 4 are terrible and 4 are so bad, you think about turning them off. Or you’re deaf.

MBs.

Oh Keith - why does it feel like I’m getting MBs for no reason? Had the same feeling with pirates and now with GF, mbs start for who knows why. And then when one starts, another one starts quickly after. And then your score increases 10000x which leads me to feel like the only way to score big is MB and I hate that. Keith - remember Addams family - you hit that chair to start MB. How did that feel? Did the sound and light package also spice up what was something you deserved and the light show really gave you something like you never saw again in the game? That’s what MB is. Keith. Listen. Please.

Code:

Godfather of the Caribbean. Damn. Worst part about POTC (and that game is amazing) - the code. MBs feel generic. Same opening screens. No tie in to the movies (with clips, mode shots, etc) and just feel out of place. But good news - they overlap!!! Sweet!

Light Show:

Keep this short. It’s not as bad as the first clip we all saw but it’s bad. Over the top, movie setting killer. See my pics below - nice TnA color. JJP - how does no one raise their hand and say this is just not the godfather when you all sit around eating dinner…….at Olive Garden?

Conclusion:

I can spend 15k tomorrow and have this game. No worries….and the same for many here. Some of these folks are reading this right now, nodding their heads while others reading this, never posted before and never will are also agreeing. Listen - we deserve BETTER. Stop giving these companies money for a product that is worse than before. Especially when that product was twice less. This is not opinion. Anyone that says GF is worth 15k is lying to themselves. You and I both know that. I’m not going to reiterate my thoughts here b/c up above - you how I feel. Many positives but much more negatives. But PLEASE try the game yourself and report back.

On a side note - I played Scooby as well. Spooky is def beginning to build a nicer product. Halloween imo was gorgeous but Scooby as a wide, if you like the theme - gorgeous. Gamplay? Incredibly boring. They said let’s go back to normal b/c we were too hard before. Well, they went WAY too much to the easy side. Game is super easy but the worst part is the upper. SUPER slow. So I don’t know. It’s 10k and it looks gorgeous. Gameplay not good but clips and sounds that are MUCH better implemented. You can’t go AS wrong with this one but still - if you don’t need it now, wait a year and save 1k+
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#2597 1 year ago
Quoted from delt31:

It’s like they found some guys in Indiana to run through some terrible dialogue

(Fuming in Hoosier)

#2598 1 year ago
Quoted from delt31:

Played this game for more than 4 hours. Thrilled to support #heliconbrewery and to tip my server well b/c remember fellas, if you’re in a position to think about buying a toys for 15k, you take care of the people serving you. And shout out to hupchallenge who told me he streams and the kid can play pinball.
OK here we go.
Let me just mention upfront the thing that impressed me the most by this game - the flipper feel. THANK GOD - JJP, you did it. I was told TS4 started it but after playing that game…..maybe? Wasn’t conclusive. This game - no doubt. Everyone who I played this game with mentioned the same. So JJP has finally addressed one of the biggest problems. I would love to retro fit this in my Wonka btw. But hey - most important problem fixed b/c they always pack the game more than stern and code is deep so nothing else to worry about right? Well maybe…….no.
Up front disclaimer: This is not for CE owners who are reading this and just getting triggered to defend the choice they made. This is not meant for the iceman44’s of the world also. You know - the ones who don’t care about cost, they just want the game. But I will also say that I have 15k ready to go and if I were to spend it today, I’m ready. I only mention that b/c I can easily spend this money if worth it. I also LOVE godfather. I’m not some guy living in the Midwest who has heard about GF b/c of the internet or thinks Olive Garden is good Italian. I know this movie. I love this movie.
This game is not Godfather - after 4 hrs, it’s not even close. And for Eric to say everything from GF that was significant was injected into this game is an absolute lie. Just like when those two from Flippin N Out (or sorry, SDTM!) say that shots are the new toys, they are being dishonest. But more on those dreamboats later.
So positives:
- Flippers - thank you JJP. Feel Great. Much closer to stern and kill my wonka’s.
- Shots - 29 paths so what is there not to like? Actually……well, more on that later but this is really about the initial layout. I love the godzilla bumper and the shots in general as they do feel fresh. Although there is a major SDTM shot….
- the assets from the GF, as limited as they are, are implemented well. More on this later.
- build quality…..good. I was playing with a Scooby next to me and although I think spooky is making progress, JJPs stand out. Nice touch with the translite lights around the entire thing. RIP lermods mod for this. You taught them well!
- Challenge - this game is hard. SDTM shot unless you hold that left flipper top up - which is annoying. But it’s hard and I don’t mind that. I rather a shorter player than long.
- Interrogation video clip is awesome. Same with game over, Match and extra ball.
“Areas of focus”
Major takeaway…….and I felt the same on stream. THIS IS NOT GODFATHER. I can’t make this anymore clear. Shame on JJP for taking the licensor for a ride and shame on Erik for saying all the key scenes are in this game. It’s not even close. I literally counted…….prob less than 1 min of video in total and we made it fairly far in the game. If you want to double that sure - but then you would be crazy and it still would be 2 min. What is going on Keith and Eric? I know Merrily doesn’t want Fredo but did she always say 7 second transition clips at most?
NO TOYS.
This is the most Barron JJP yet. I thought I was losing my mind after playing this for almost 4 hours. How could this feel EVEN LESS than Toy Story 4? No, it couldn’t be. First impression when I came up to the game was wow, this is the most barren game from JJP ever. And I’m not a newb. I’m someone who knows wtf is going on in this hobby. My WOZ and other games speak for that. I know what is packed. So I went over to TS4 and I was pissed. I HATE TS4 but GD - that game has more in it than GF. Proof? Jump ramp, spinning circle, toy that pops up. Garbage right for 15k CE? Well GF? A toy that spins. NOT interactive, doesn’t do anything besides look terrible in a GF game b/c it’s cartoonish. But wait - you have that GF sculp right? Well it does NOTHING. Literally nothing.
And guys - diverter? Here’s my feedback on this after playing. Sure it might put the ball in 29 diff places but what’s important is what am I shooting? NOT what is coming back at me b/c that isn’t tactical. Half the time I couldn’t see where the ball was coming from but most importantly, it wasn’t better b/c of it. It certainly wasn’t a toy. Special plug to my friends at SDTM. After playing this game, I want to call out what a JOKE those two have become now that they distribute. Greg and Zach - you have my cell, you texted me earlier asking to understand more. I responded - let’s do it live for pinside! Constructive as always ; )
Call Outs - I’ll sew you up!
Look, if you think these are great call outs, then you need to check into a mental institution b/c you’re crazy and have terrible taste. yes - I’ll just say it. These call outs are borderline offensive to an Italian American like myself. It’s like they found some guys in Indiana to run through some terrible dialogue while they’re eating their dominos in the most over the top dialogue you have ever heard. Of 10 lines you’ll hear, 2 are OK, 4 are terrible and 4 are so bad, you think about turning them off. Or you’re deaf.
MBs.
Oh Keith - why? Why when I play do I feel like I’m getting MBs for no reason? Had the same feeling with pirates and now with GF, mbs start for who knows why. And then when one starts another. And then your score increases 10x which leads me to feel like the only way to score big is MB and I hate that. Keith - remember Addams family - you hit that chair to start MB. How did that feel? Did the sound and light package also spice up what was something you deserved and the light show really gave you something like you never saw again in the game? That’s what MB is. Keith. Listen. Please.
Code:
Godfather of the Caribbean. Damn. Worst part about POTC (and that game is amazing) - the code. MBs feel generic. Same opening screens. No tie in to the movies (with clips, mode shots, etc) and just feel out of place. But good news - they overlap!!! Sweet!
Light Show:
Keep this short. It’s not as bad as the first clip we all saw but it’s bad. Over the top, movie setting killer. See my pics. JJP - how does no one raise their hand and say this is just not the godfather when you all sit around eating dinner…….at Olive Garden?
Conclusion:
I can spend 15k tomorrow and have this game. No worries….and the same for may here. Some of these folks are reading this right now, nodding their heads while others reading this, never posted before and never will are also agreeing. Listen - you deserve BETTER. Stop giving these companies money for a product that is worse than before. Especially when that product was twice less. This is not opinion. Anyone that says GF is worth 15k is lying to themselves. You and I both know that. I’m not going to reiterate my thoughts here b/c up above - you how I feel. Many positives but much more negatives.
On a side note - I played Scooby as well. Spooky is def beginning to build a nicer product. Halloween imo was gorgeous but Scooby as a wide, if you like the theme - gorgeous. Gamplay? Incredibly boring. They said let’s go back to normal b/c we were too hard before. Well, they went WAY too much to the easy side. Game is super easy but the worst part is the upper. SUPER slow. So I don’t know. It’s 10k and it looks gorgeous. Gameplay not good but clips and sounds that are MUCH better implemented. You can’t go AS wrong with this one but still - if you don’t need it now, wait a year and save 1k+

Ouch. Karl’s stream looked so good, I had higher hopes than your review gives me. It certainly is a beautiful game, like GnR.

#2599 1 year ago
Quoted from Dreadreaper:

Where did you hear that? That's interesting because I've found scorbit to be a bit amateur in it's implementation.

I’ve found it to be 100% professional and I use it for big events. But they can only do so much when they don’t get much support from manufacturers or they have manufacturers deliberately making it not work.

#2600 1 year ago
Quoted from Beechwood:

60,000 quarters and it's paid for! (Not including tax and shipping)
I would hope dollars are being used in today's market!

We now own a fractional share of GFLE at bird fish (0.133%)

What a fun game. Love the diverters (which are mechs), shots are satisfying when you hit a groove (there can be some pretty bad brickfesting on par with maiden). Wasn't loud enough to fully hear sounds but certainly sound JJpinbally, I guess it's their style. Light show is fun, not rainbow puke club at all, streams do it a disservice. The hot rails are not as obnoxious in person as they are top down in a stream. The artwork is superb on the playfield - lots of credit to the Dutchmen that came up with it. Flippers are fantastic.

Center stained glass modes on playfield is just like TFTC. I can see lots of influences from classics I love and some modern games as well... which is not a bad thing.

This is certainly a home use game... the center drains from under the left ramp, left ramp return, caporegime were HORRIBLE. maybe an off kilter level one side to another by a couple degrees but this was roughly 20/60 balls - not a thing to be done about it without disrespecting the machine.

We went with a CE and will be happy... but holy hell is this way over priced. Though the $21,000 stranger things in the market make it look like a bargain.

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