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GNRCE Playfield issues!

By Skyemont

2 years ago


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    “GNRCE Playfield issues!”

    • No issues 34 votes
      30%
    • A few issues but I can deal with it 15 votes
      13%
    • I need a new playfield 63 votes
      56%

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    Post #5 HEP identifies the issue immediatly. Posted by High_End_Pins (2 years ago)

    Post #96 Myth about outlawed chemicals Posted by High_End_Pins (2 years ago)

    Post #173 Mirco clearcoat & post tests Posted by High_End_Pins (2 years ago)

    Post #726 HEP comment on the two easy to see direct issues. Posted by High_End_Pins (2 years ago)

    Post #807 Reminder of thread purpose. Posted by Skyemont (2 years ago)


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    #42 2 years ago

    This is even WORSE than POTC

    JJP should have grown some balls years ago, sue Mirco and use the proceeds to establish their own playfield production in house

    #84 2 years ago
    Quoted from pinballaddicted:

    What have JJP or your distro said to you?

    My JJP distro attacked me publically here on the forum repeatedly for asking them to make it right by me (f'd POTC CE) , when I brought the distributors unprofessional and bullying behavior to JJP management's attention they shrugged it off, said that I misunderstood him.....

    So good luck

    #122 2 years ago
    Quoted from Dallas_Pin:

    Skyemont ... I’m in the club. Filled a ticket with JJP and alerted my distro. I’ve asked for a new unpopulated playfield so it can be professionally cleared and allowed 10 months of curing before install. This is another huge black eye for JJP and Mirco!

    It will still chip.
    Not even a playfield protector will help. Not with the print coming off due to lateral stress from posts.

    #134 2 years ago
    Quoted from nicoy3k:

    Do you have play field issues? Why not try to protect with washers and play the crap out of your game? What does leaving the game un played accomplish?

    Not the problem fix at all.

    Hit post- lateral movement - paint flakes.
    A washer does not change that.

    Don't fall for the smokescreen

    #165 2 years ago
    Quoted from nicoy3k:

    Never said it was a fix, wtf does not playing the game accomplish though?

    WTF does selling you junk accomplish?

    Questions over questions

    In the beginning JJP were unaware and not at fault.
    At this point they plain don't give a shit, otherwise they would have accomplished what smaller outfits such as Spooky already have

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    #168 2 years ago

    This guy gets it
    Simple physics

    Solution for all of us:

    Receive game

    Pull all exposed posts

    Ream the top 2mm of the hole at a 45 degree angle

    Run CA down hole for hardening

    Reassemble

    Done

    #170 2 years ago
    Quoted from Soulrider911:

    Being a Pirates owner ( went through some similar issues) and talkwing with some very knowledgable folks in the field, one of the MAJOR reasons this happens is the playfields themself. Now... I am NOT SCIENTIST, just a guy with some logical wiring.
    Aside from JJP probably not using torque renches and used impact automitive grade guns to attach hardware haha.
    "Apparently" Mirco playfields use an "accelerant" to speed the hardening process. This makes them hard enough to ship, handle, and not dimple with your finger tip - finger nail is a different story. The playfields (using this method) have not cured to reach maximum hardness because they have sat for weeks not months. Without the proper cure time the clear is fragile, and in turn is partially maluable. When hardware is twisted on the clear trists and or mushrooms, and wrecks the artwork its adhered to. Its like hot glue that has partially hardened.
    I did a test on a replacement JJP Pirates playfield I received (documented in the Pirates Thread). Immediately after opening I attempted to push my finger nail into the playfield ... boom I was able to crease the playfield easily. It has since sat for 5 months and I tried it again... can't do it. Seems somewhat conclusive to me.

    That's pooling, not chipping

    As long as paint and clear are that soft you will have pooling.

    Once they harden you will have chipping instead

    Pick your JJP poison

    #192 2 years ago
    Quoted from acedanger:

    If this ever happened to me I'd throw the Fucking Playfield right through the glass of the main lobby of JJP!!!

    Jersey Jack would call you a bad person at that point

    #372 2 years ago
    Quoted from PinMonk:

    With a blank playfield at least you can give it years to cure and harden, lessening the chance of failure again. Then you can play the one in your machine into the ground with peace of mind.

    You got that wrong.

    You receive the replacement playfield and then flip all that crap to a Derek or a Levi.
    Done. Now someone elses problem, just as JJP think and do themselves.

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    #588 2 years ago

    JJP

    Just Junk Playfields

    Slogan for the back

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