Spooky had a bad batch of TNA playfields, but I think they corrected during the TNA run. I’m not sure how they resolved it for the people that had an issue.

To me, it seems like both the ink and the clear weren’t allowed to cure properly. The clear was too soft which allowed the posts to rotate and shear off the poorly adhered ink.

My guess is another 8-12 weeks of cure time would have alleviated a lot of the issues. My TNA was built around the time others had issues, but mine sat in the box for 3 months before it was played and it’s been perfect with no issues. I get it that everything in this industry is rushed, but it seems like some of the early GnRs were too rushed. I hope JJP makes it right for everyone affected.

I think digital printing is the right evolution for creating playfields over screen printing as they are way more detailed (along with many other advantages). But obviously there’s an issue with the ink or cure time or chemical interaction for Mirco. I don’t think we should “throw out the baby with the bath water” and lobby for a return to screen printed playfields.

My hope is that JJP has taken the issue seriously and may have already addressed the root cause. Then they obviously need to make it right for people that own a game with a defective playfield.

Right - but that chip was just the ultimate manisfestation of damage that started a long time ago. I was simply saying that having an extra few months of cure time before the game was played *may* have helped.

But that step should have been taken by JJP and/or Mirco. It’s not anyone’s fault that they have playfield damage after a few hundred plays. As I said before, JJP has to address the issue and make it right.

I think you may have answered your own question.

It’s just insurance so that if damage does occur, it’s hidden and won’t affect aesthetics.

Not really - I've found them to be as reliable as the other manufacturers, there's just more mechs on a JJP than a Stern. More mechs = more things that can break - but most of their drops, pops, slings, flipper mechs are based on B/W designs and are solid. They've had some bumps in the road - but so have the other "new" pinball companies.

Or maybe they were told by their contract playfield manufacturer (Mirco) that the problems had been resolved. It's unfortunate for JJP that one of their sub-contractors is giving them a black eye. But JJP remaining silent is only making it worse. Just a simple - "we know there's a problem for some folks and they will be compensated" would go a long ways to settle down the chatter.

I guess I would have more sympathy for CE owners if they were losing thousands of dollars because of the damage, but that's not the case - I don't think I've seen a CE listed in the market for under $18k for the past 3 months.

JJP has offered to buy back your game for MSRP (which is the right move for JJP), or you can sell it in 10 seconds for $15k in the market. Pocket the profit and wait on an LE with a (hopefully) better PF.

Or keep your game, enjoy it and buy a better PF when available (hopefully offered by JJP at cost). I'll bet you money you'll still make more than MSRP when you sell it.

It’s printed on the rear edge - left side. You should be able to snap a pic with your phone using the flash.

My LE is 1/29/2021.

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As others have said, selling blank PFs at cost would be the easiest route for them and cost them nothing. They did the same thing with the Hobbit left wire ramp exit and WoZ 2.0 light boards.

Is it right to charge for any of these? No. Do we know there is a chance something like this will happen with a JJP game and we’ll have to pay to fix it? Yes, because this is the pattern. I don’t like this aspect of their business.

But you know what I do like? Their games. They are freaking fun and a *big* jump in entertainment value over the other companies. I bought my GnR LE after reading all these PF issue threads, knowing full well what may be down the road for me on my PF. The game is amazing and I’m glad I didn’t wait it out or pass.

I think iphone likes to auto correct mirco to micro if you don’t capitalize it.