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GNRCE Playfield issues!

By Skyemont

2 years ago


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    “GNRCE Playfield issues!”

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    • A few issues but I can deal with it 15 votes
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    • I need a new playfield 63 votes
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    Post #5 HEP identifies the issue immediatly. Posted by High_End_Pins (2 years ago)

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    #291 2 years ago

    We were lucky enough to secure a G&R CE with a serial number in the 90's range. We took delivery the last week of February and as of today have nearly 2,000 games played. It is one of our favorite games to play, and it probably helps that my wife and I are big G&R fans.

    I've followed this thread and the other G&R threads to learn about tweaks and issues. I removed my glass this morning and went over the playfield with a flash light. The ONLY blemish I could find regarding pooling, lifting or chipping was around this post to the left of the scoop. I already have the 3/4" clear washers mentioned above and I'm hoping that installing one will prevent further chipping as the arrows point out.

    I guess I should feel lucky that there is not more damage with so many hours on the game. Maybe it's possible that some of the pooling issues and worse seen by others won't creep up in my machine?

    My wife and I are fairly new to the hobby but we play every night and enjoy our games. Just like the hot rodded 48' Chevy in my profile pic that gets driven everywhere. We're both nearly 50 and while I love having nice shiny toys, I know that with use you will get some minor dings and bump ups here and there. I have friends with hot rods they never drive and guys who have guns which are "safe queens" and never get shot. These friends who never really utilize or enjoy their possessions puzzle me. That would be similar to me telling friends not to play my G&R because "I wanna keep total plays low for possible future re-sale value." For me unless I hate the game, if I buy a pin and love it I will probably keep it forever and put it in my will.

    So if there are documented issues with the manufacturing process as pointed out it seems the entire playfield could be compromised. However in MY case is it possible that what you see in the photo is normal wear and tear from 2,000 plays? Could it be similar to dings in your paint from driving your car normally?

    I'm hoping it's attributed to normal wear and tear because I would hate to think that over the next couple years every high impact post will start to look like this one. People have a right to be frustrated and upset for the amount of money we spend on these games. I totally get it. In my case though I will play the game until the legs fall off because the overall experience for me exceeds the worry of a couple clear disks on the playfield that you don't see with the light shows going full blast.

    I've been a lurker for months but just wanted to post my SN range and pics so the OP can cross reference his experiences with one more.

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    #293 2 years ago
    Quoted from Haymaker:

    I'm with you man, I think toys should be enjoyed! The pinball machine won't be pristine forever, but that is not normal wear and tear. That looks like a nice paint job on your hot rod. If it started flaking off after 10,000 miles would you consider that normal wear and tear? I think most of us have somewhat realistic expectations with our games, giant chunks of playfield chipping off is not one of them.

    Oh for sure some of the photos I have seen are atrocious and are not acceptable on new production with low plays. When I was only able to find that one blemish on my playfield I was hoping mine was one of the ones done properly and maybe the single post on mine was over torqued or just took more of a beating. Maybe I'm expressing wishful thinking, but only time will tell.

    The paint job on my car wasn't cheap and I'd be crying if it started peeling. lol.

    #302 2 years ago
    Quoted from dmieczko:

    Can you post another picture of that post from a different angle? Is that a huge chunk of paint missing just North of the post that you can't really see in the pic??

    Yeah I see what you mean now with this angle. I didn't catch it the first time around but that bare wood shouldn't be there and it indeed looks like a chip.

    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    My advice is put away the flashlight and stop looking for trouble. Sounds like you did ok so no need to drive yourself nuts, enjoy the game that’s what the hobby is all about.
    If you keep conducting flashlight reviews eventually you’ll find SOMETHING so I’d count yourself lucky just have fun with it.

    For sure I'm not gonna keep looking for trouble. I've cleaned and waxed my playfield and even after following all these threads for weeks today was the first time I've ever felt inclined to see if my PF had any issues. I'll do what I can to minimize any further damage, but I'm gonna play the hell out of it. Lately the wife and I have a friendly rivalry over Deadpool so G&R has had somewhat of a rest this week. Absolutely loving Deadpool!

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