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GNRCE Playfield issues!

By Skyemont

2 years ago


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    “GNRCE Playfield issues!”

    • No issues 34 votes
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    • A few issues but I can deal with it 15 votes
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    • I need a new playfield 63 votes
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    Post #5 HEP identifies the issue immediatly. Posted by High_End_Pins (2 years ago)

    Post #96 Myth about outlawed chemicals Posted by High_End_Pins (2 years ago)

    Post #173 Mirco clearcoat & post tests Posted by High_End_Pins (2 years ago)

    Post #726 HEP comment on the two easy to see direct issues. Posted by High_End_Pins (2 years ago)

    Post #807 Reminder of thread purpose. Posted by Skyemont (2 years ago)


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    #402 2 years ago

    This thread combined with my recent root canal requiring a post and crown made me think....

    I know it's a major change but could they install a t-nut on back side in such a way that the posts don't put pressure on playfield? - OR - install a mini-post (TM) and clear playfields AFTER a flat post is installed that allows you to later screw into that so the posts attach only to metal and any extra clear just cracks at the attachment?

    #432 2 years ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

    Maybe JJP should consider undermounting that post through a close fitting hole in the PF. Here is what I am thinking-
    This does not fix the crappy clear issue, but its one of the most beat up posts in a game, and would make long term sense to look into doing something differently. [quoted image]

    This is similar to what I was saying as maybe a suggestion for JJP. While I appreciate it doesn't solve the actual problem with ink adhesion it may reduce the chances of your game showing damage in as early as a month. Obviously they would need to test it.

    The problem as I see it is JJP is married to Mirco with either a contract or they purchased all the playfields and what's done can't be undone at this point. Mirco would have to take a million dollar + loss to change thier process and seems like legally that would be hard for JJP to force and would take years meanwhile they have no new playfields if they outlayed the playfield costs already to Mirco.

    Didn't Stern and spooky just shift the art away from the posts? JJP could do that also if they are still getting new playfields from Mirco. Explains also why that test area is worthless if it's only the art adhesion that is the problem.

    As far as the concern that the playfields don't just continue to fall apart I think we mostly know that will not happen as we have years old games as examples. My GOTG has the issue with one post and it's stayed limited to that post.

    Would be great if this was fixed but looks like it will cost too much for the time being and those stuck with this problem and want to keep the game will have to hope that one day truly fixed playfields to be run and available for purchase (I'm not betting they will be any cheaper than at cost) and eventually replace them.

    #433 2 years ago
    Quoted from Skyemont:

    Playfield quality control. Looking good. I was told mine passed the test. I’m serious. I was told that.

    I'm sure it did if they are limiting the testing in the apron area.

    #509 2 years ago
    Quoted from littlecammi:

    Sorry to hear about that. Any pooling or chipping around the post yet?

    Inspecting it again I thought I saw some pooling, alas it's just swelling.

    #571 2 years ago
    Quoted from Jecco74:

    JJP will not return my emails about pooling on my GnR CE. My distributor reached to them and they are not willing to do anything. So I offered to buy another playfield so I could get it cleared myself. They will not even sell me a playfield. I can not believe this is happening.

    I was told they will sell playfields after the run is compete....but...I would not buy one until we have some clear direction on what the solve was here so it's clear the one you buy as a backup is not going to have issues.

    Even a raw playfield with no clear is worthless (other than wall art) if it's an art adhesion issue. I don't think they have a solution yet. Maybe they redesign to remove art from post areas, maybe they source someone other than Mirco, I would want to know what's changed before throwing good money after bad.

    #710 2 years ago
    Quoted from sanantoniopinhea:

    I started the pinball hobby in 2007. I used to post on the old Yahoo boards (wild west with no moderator) when Clay was giving us manuals on how to fix pinball games. Prices

    Thanks for your story! Good do see a long timer post. "Yahoo boards" I assume was way of viewing the RGP newsgroup. Clay helped many get into this hobby, including myself. It's great to see many continue to help today just seems like those voices are drowned out lately.

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