Really want to get a GnR. GnR was a key part of my teenage years and how I didn't have the "correct" priorities. I also want to downsize the number of pins. Toying with the idea of unloading my MM and/or CV. Just curious from those that own GnR how they would rate gameplay to either of those other two titles. Does it matter if it is a CE vs. LE? Probably would get one of those two. Is there anyone out there that bought a GnR that is getting tired of the game? If so, why? I know this happens in that not every title works for everyone, especially after you have played it for a while. Some really popular titles never worked for me (i.e. AF or FH). Everyone has their own view of what is fun.

Current lineup I have is MM, CV, TZ, WoZ. Future lineup could be GnR, TZ, WoZ.

Thoughts/Feedback/Ideas? I get the GnR's go for a premium now. It is what it is, but so do the older titles. All the prices are out of whack. Would also be curious on peoples thoughts of the value for MM and CV. I checked the archives, but not sure how accurate those are. I have owned the CV and MM for about 15 years.

Btw, this forum is awesome. I know there can be some drama sometimes, but man it is really cool to shoot out questions and get some real solid answers. So to that point, thanks in advance for any words of wisdom on this idea...

Dave

To clarify I am asking about the GNR CE/LE JJP Game. Not the DE one. Is there a different acronym I should be using to differentiate between the DE game and the JJP game?

This is interesting. I was always told the LE and CE's had the exact same ruleset. So that isn't true?

Thanks for the intel. I have enjoyed it on-site but can only get so far since the machines are setup pretty hard/3-ball. I am still biased to the CE artwork over the LE, but LE is growing on me. Probably because it won't cost me so much more!

I am a big multi-ball kind of guy, so to me, the more the better.

Also find it interesting that you didn't like the sound-bar. Never understood why manufacturer's can't get sound right given the low cost to make it sound good.

All: Thanks for your feedback and opinions. In the end I think I am going to seek out an GnR LE. Probably unload at least my CV in the process to keep my wife on the happy side during the holidays.

Now I have to figure out how to mod the LE to make it fun. Some initial ideas are Sound, Topper, Skull, Side Mirrors. Thoughts folks?

Lineup would end up being TZ, WoZ, MM, and GnR. I think it has pretty good balance. I am hearing some love/hate from people that have had GnR. Mainly is that the ruleset is so darn deep it might be really hard to dig deep into the game. Hopefully I can dial back the settings to offset that.....or they update firmware to make sure some average people can get deeper into the game if they choose to.

Just thought I would update everyone here several months later. Ended up deciding to sell my CV and get a GnR LE. I came real close to buying a CE, but realized I wanted some unique mods that would just make a CE+Customs mods too costly. Plus I liked the artwork a bit more on the LE. I also liked the red trim as well over the purple. Seemed to match the roses theme more?

Anyway, got the LE in the basement over the weekend and started with some of the quick mods.

1) Knocked out Sven's drum/speaker kit - really cool and easy to install by the way
2) Little Shop of Games Skull, Bullet Shooter Rod, and Sculpted Action Button Piece - so well crafted!
3) Put in several of Freddy's lighted (color) pinball protectors - may wait until a light shop is needed to put in the rest

Still need to install...

1) Pinwoofer GT kit (in the house)
2) Pin Stadium CE (should come in the next month or so, back ordered atm)
4) PinGraffix Stadium topper and Backlit kit - Having issue with power harness. I think my build has different wiring. Working it out w/them now.
5) Cliffy's protectors (back ordered. Should be here in a month or so)
6) Side art blades (shipping now

My overall first impressions of the game...

1) Holy crap, the lighting is crazy well done. I thought WoZ was well done, but this is another level
2) You better like multi-ball a lot when playing this game. They come like candy
3) I still don't know what the hell I am doing, I need to dive into the rules
4) If you fix pinball machines for a living, you will love GnR. It is going to make you lots of money. This game in a word is "violent". There is a ton of going on.
5) Some of the adult callouts are F'n funny (pun intended)
6) Sounds obvious, but you need to like GnR music. It is loaded in this game. I like that!
7) The build quality looks really well done. I got to tour the plant when I picked it up. All I can say is they really have a good shop at JJP. I know they take their beatings out there sometimes with things, but when you see a GnR being built from the ground up the way they do it, you realize they are really building a top quality machine. ALL of their staff was friendly and nice, even the line workers. It also makes you appreciate just how hard it is to build a pinball, especially in todays environment with Covid & the corresponding procurement nightmares.

Thanks to all of you for helping out with the decision and for those that nudged me this way, I want to thank you. Hope you all had an awesome weekend. I always love interacting with this group (well most of the time

Dave