I can understand people may not like GnR, but some of the reasons they provide are really weak.

They play one specific machine and make blanket statements about every GnR having weak flippers or 90% right ramp rejects, left orbit is hard to hit, or skill shot sucks so game sucks (same skill shot didn't hurt the love for TZ.)

The multiball complaint is more legit, but it's really because they believe multiball must only be a special achievement because that's all they've known. Fair enough.

But only when one can understand the 2 ball modes are not an achievement to score jackpots in a traditional sense, the game opens up and a player can see the game differently.

It's a step to build song value for what is the real multiball toward the the risk/ reward element.

Again, not a game for everyone, but it's still a brilliant game. (Btw, so is TSPP, but apparently some people don't appreciate that game either.)

This is a classic comment demonstrating a lack of understanding of the rules for GnR.

It is not like a Stern game and thinking it should be will disappoint those who only conceive multiball as Stern games have defined them.

In GnR, it's a means to a strategy- building a big risk reward payoff for later.

I like both Stern and JJP, but apart from different themes, many newer Stern's started to feel the same.

I still like my Sterns, but damn, without some variety, playing only Sterns gets repetitive to me.

The familiar similarity playing Stern games seems to be an important draw for many who dislike JJP.

There is no "correct" mb. They just have different implementations and purposes.

You state that the 90's B/W games have defined mb correctly. I get it. That's my point.

I agree that GnR would feel top heavy in mb only if we can't distinguish the booster mb's main purpose is not as an achievement to collect several jackpots before lighting a Super.

Yes, that would indeed be lame.

Another fact filled endorsement.

You make a great point.

I think Beatles fits the mold as well. Super fun game that you play for score, not modes.