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Quoted from Darth_Chris:I really wanted a GNR LE but when they made the announcement with all this backlog this is not serious. I don't want to wait 6 months to a year for something. This is not serious. Yes it's pinball and not essential but give me a break. After big lebowski, aliens and predator fiasco just to name a few I really don't feel confortable with no precise information of when I going to get my pin. I know JJP might be a cie more reliable than the other cies who produced titles who never got delivered but since JJP started years ago the only thing really annoying me is the long wait because they cannot keep up. You can say pandemic all day but it's always been like that in my book.
You might not believe me but this is the truth.....if I could give the money and get my pin, like cash on the glass I would buy it. Instead they seem like locking customers in with a no reason at all 1k price increase.
Distributors take refundable deposits for JJP orders. So mentioning heighway or dutch pinball has no relevance to JJP delivering your game. Distributors buy the games from JJP when they are (almost) ready to go out. They aren't bootstrapping it. Games are going out every week. People are announcing they received their games every day on this site. People pre-order cars, memorabilia statues, and lots of other things that have a much longer timeframe to wait. Updates by distributors have been accurate. The response to this game has been overwhelming and they are ramping up a new factory. The narrative that JJP is 'struggling' is ridiculous. They aren't Stern. Nobody said they are. They do want to have two lines going. It's a process and considering they made the move in 2020 during the pandemic is pretty incredible. Sounds like they are serious to me.
The price increase was not to 'lock in' current pre-orders.
One day you can buy a pin that is in stock. You'll just have to wait. Whether you have a $2,000 refundable deposit with a distributor or you keep it so you don't feel tied down is up to you. But the day this game was revealed it was on the production line. That's a huge improvement.
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