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JJP has always been the price leader.
And that isn't in a good way.
Actions like the latest are a perfect example of them doing whatever they want... And we as consumers lapping it up.
I wasn't a jjp supporter before, and I'm not starting.
We really do need a price correction crash.
Quoted from flynnibus:people tripping over themselves to buy $1k toppers... and people willing to buy 10k games from prophets
Absolutely no argument there. Sadly.
Quoted from Thunderbird:JJP prices are now $4000 to $6000 over Stern’s for the same 3 tiers. (Yes, JJP has used tricky marketing wording on those 3 tiers, but they’re the same 3 tiers.)
Blink, blink...
Is that for real? Is it really that much? Seriously?
Quoted from 27dnast:too many people let others judge for them, or played one that wasn't properly set up
Or people wouldn't support a thief and his design...
Quoted from 27dnast:Joe Balser is a thief? That’s news to me, do tell
come on... don't be obtuse.
You know that Houdini was original a game used by JPOP to rip off your fellow pinheads.
I really don't care if Joe came in and fixed the game to make it ready for production.
It's a bad-blood game designed by a Thief.
Splitting hairs doesn't change the fact that American Pinball started off by throwing their lot in with that Thief. They'll never be "Right with me" because of it.
I wanted to like Hot Wheels or Octoberfest; but again... I haven't trusted American Pinball with my money because of their first game. One day; maybe they'll do a title I have to have at a reasonable price; then maybe I'll get over the first game. So far; they haven't.
Quoted from 27dnast:They didn’t use JPOPs design. As far as I can tell, Houdini is open IP... anyone can use it. It’s not like they paid JPOP for Houdini. They didn’t use JPOP’s art, either. It was their game from the ground up and they sold it at a fair price without requiring preorders.
Sorry; I disagree. Look at the layout of the "demo" playfield... and the production machine.
The layout is too similar - maybe some minor adjustments to address bad geometry.
JPOP did get a salary for a while under AP... until they figured out he was a hack.
Look; I get it... you wanna like your games. It's your right to stick your head in the sand or choose to ignore it.
It's also my right to voice my concerns about them taking a bad-blood game and make it a reality.
Very similar to Pinball Brothers trying Alien. DeepRott doing Zombie game from ?JPOP?. Now all someone needs to do is Predator.
Simply put; I have zero faith in companies copying an infamous game to try and profit. Leave a bad taste in my mouth. You don't have to agree; but it is a concern for some of us.
Quoted from zaphX:People really need to let this go. If it was going to happen, it would have.
People are still holding out for a TronVE release... so people can't let it go.
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