If you wanted a CE and couldn't get one, what will you do now?
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They’d better not make more CE ‘s. JJP is better than that. Stern, on the other hand, often breaks promises and increases production after they promised to fix numbers (Munsters LE and BM66LE for example)
The whole idea behind something ‘collectible’ is that its limited availability with greater demand than supply. If everyone has one, then it’s not a collectible.
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Quoted from woody76:I have never in my life seen so many grown men cry like little babies over a pinball machine
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LOL, no but GNR has put it on another level
Quoted from woody76:LOL, no but GNR has put it on another level
This all boils down to people wanting what others can't have. If they increase the number of CE's, all the other guys will start crying because they don't get to say "I have one and you don't," which I think is the most childish.
I'm not enough of a GnR fan to buy the game at all, but I understand the frustration of people being denied the version that they want because of a number and saying "forget it" altogether.
Quoted from seenev:This all boils down to people wanting what others can't have. If they increase the number of CE's, all the other guys will start crying because they don't get to say "I have one and you don't," which I think is the most childish.
I'm not enough of a GnR fan to buy the game at all, but I understand the frustration of people being denied the version that they want because of a number and saying "forget it" altogether.
I agree. If people will be patient CE's will pop up on the secondary market. Look at rick and morty and every other game that has sold out the first day.
Quoted from woody76:I agree. If people will be patient CE's will pop up on the secondary market. Look at rick and morty and every other game that has sold out the first day.
Very true, especially for R&M. The thing that gets me is the speculators and flippers (ha!).
Quoted from ToucanF16:They’d better not make more CE ‘s. JJP is better than that. Stern, on the other hand, often breaks promises and increases production after they promised to fix numbers (Munsters LE and BM66LE for example)
The whole idea behind something ‘collectible’ is that its limited availability with greater demand than supply. If everyone has one, then it’s not a collectible.
They can just come out with a new edition. Problem solved. They did it with WOZ.
Quoted from TomGWI:They can just come out with a new edition. Problem solved. They did it with WOZ.
Correct, just dont call it a CE.
The all black armor "Slash" edition.
Did it with Black Arrow.
Just have different trim, different topper.
Fyi, I didn't get a Black Arrow and really wanted one.
So Woody.....
I still cry myself to sleep sometimes.
I (likely) will get a LE.
Initially wanted the LE but as the CE has the cool apron ball lock and a few other bits (RadCals) but don't feel too bad about not getting a CE it was at my limit price so I won't pay extra. If some guys are going to be selling them for $13.5K or more, that's fine won't effect me. If some pop up for 12.5 I'll bite but no more. I saw some for sale dealer for $13K yesterday since sold out but I didn't want to go that high. I know it's silly to draw the line at $500 extra but that was how much I was on the fence with also wanting the LE initially and still like the art on the LE.
So with the savings, I plan to buy 8-10 PDI glass (I wanted to get eventually).
Quoted from TomGWI:They can just come out with a new edition. Problem solved. They did it with WOZ.
The could do a "Use Your Illusion" version with the artwork for I on the left side and II on the right side. -Similar to the Transformers Autobots/Decepticons.
Quoted from Doctor6:21 people so far are gonna take their ball and go home? I'm surprised by this. I guess that means they're more into the rarity and less into the actual game itself?
These polls are not scientific. I said I'm in for a Standard and I have zero intention of ever buying a NIB game.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:These polls are not scientific. I said I'm in for a Standard and I have zero intention of ever buying a NIB game.
The post says "If you wanted a CE and couldn't get one..."
Someone who isn't a troll would simply have not responded.
Quoted from seenev:If you wanted a CE and couldn't get one, what will you do now?
Buy an LE (looks better overall than the CE IMHO) and mod it as desired w/art blades, topper, shooter housing, lockdown bar button decoration, etc., of my choice. Or potentially purchase the next special version of the game if worthy.
Quoted from woody76:I agree. If people will be patient CE's will pop up on the secondary market. Look at rick and morty and every other game that has sold out the first day.
Look at the prices too. 
Quoted from seenev:The post says "If you wanted a CE and couldn't get one..."
Someone who isn't a troll would simply have not responded.
Good point.
The poll is still an opt-in and it's pretty much pointless. JJP is surely ignoring it.
People make dumb polls here all the time and then cite them as "evidence." These are simply parlour games they cannot be used as evidence in an argument or thesis.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Good point.
The poll is still an opt-in and it's pretty much pointless. JJP is surely ignoring it.
People make dumb polls here all the time and then cite them as "evidence." These are simply parlour games they cannot be used as evidence in an argument or thesis.
Get a job you spend way too much time here!
Quoted from romulusx:Get a job you spend way too much time here!
He does, livestreams his guitar pickin... 
If you take the current 28 people who say they won't buy the game because they can't get the CE at their word, that's $350,000 in lost revenue. Obviously this isn't a scientific or definitive poll, but I think there's enough here to suggest there's significant loss of revenue, whatever the actual amount. We're a fragile sort in this hobby.
Quoted from seenev:If you take the current 28 people who say they won't buy the game because they can't get the CE at their word, that's $350,000 in lost revenue. Obviously this isn't a scientific or definitive poll, but I think there's enough here to suggest there's significant loss of revenue, whatever the actual amount. We're a fragile sort in this hobby.
You can't take them at their word because it's all bullshit. People change their mind daily in this hobby. Pinball People are also exceptionally petty and LOVE to make a point - if I'm chippy about being "burned" by not being allowed to spend $13,000 on a pinball machine, I may vote in an opt in unscientific poll with zero actual value just to lash out at JJP, who has ruined my life by not selling me a CE.
And then next week if I still actually want the game I'll probably just order the LE.
Quoted from seenev:I'm not enough of a GnR fan to buy the game at all
Why do you care then to have created this thread?
Quoted from PinballManiac40:Why do you care then to have created this thread?
It's the topic of the moment.
This thread existed 1 day already. Don't need a poll to be talked about.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/i-got-burned-jjp-gnr-ce-deposit
Quoted from PinballManiac40:Why do you care then to have created this thread?
I actually listened to some of the songs from the game, some of them I knew, some I wasn't so familiar with. I do like their music. I could see myself maybe wanting this game depending on how I like playing it, but I don't like the idea that I have to commit to buying it before I get a chance to play it, or even see real game play, if I want a CE with all the features. I'm sort of worried that this game is going to feel too much like guitar hero. I think they should release the standard versions of the game and then once people can develop an informed opinion on the game, offer a collector's edition, if they want to offer one. People in this hobby often whine about people buying games sight unseen, but then these high demand titles come out and you have no other choice. I definitely understand the position of not wanting a game at all if you have to commit $12,500 to it before you even get to try it, otherwise you can't get all the features.
Quoted from insight75:Wow. 50 people want a CE or nothing. Thats some serious cash JJP.
if JJP loses 50 sales like you say maybe they'll learn something and do a different sales on their next CE reveal. But in all reality, they'll probably just come out with some variation of the pin like they've done in the past.
Why the magic limit 500 number anyways? Why can't it be 1000? I was a pre-order buyer for JJP's startup with WOZECLE and was supposed to be no more than 1000 made, ever, so I thought...Was paid in FULL for almost a year before I got my game.
I can't remember how it went after those 1000 LE's were delivered, but I think JJP made 1500 Standards, then RubyReds then YBR versions?? Lost track.
Quoted from CUJO:Why the magic limit 500 number anyways? Why can't it be 1000? I was a pre-order buyer for JJP's startup with WOZECLE and was supposed to be no more than 1000 made, ever, so I thought...Was paid in FULL for almost a year before I got my game.
I can't remember how it went after those 1000 LE's were delivered, but I think JJP made 1500 Standards, then RubyReds then YBR versions?? Lost track.
The game has more special magic in it the fewer people have access to it. Studies have shown that the fun factor increases 87% for each person that can't get a game.
Source: Science.
thought i was in . looks like im an out . great Distributor too so didn't go elsewhere but still gut nuked / never owned a JJP and never will now it seems. I have so many games but still feel pissed i got fooled again Like the Confederate's after Josey Wales / Damn JJP and there cutting Distros orders back. Jerks @jjp
And yes At almost 13 k for a toy , it is easy to stay true to my word unless a Judas Priest CE comes out but i will probably not get that as a strike 3 metle.GNRCe and a JPce . i will send money be told hey you got time go here to this website and fill out an order and hell still not get it...lmao .
what a sheet show
thought i was in . looks like im an out . great Distributor too so didn't go elsewhere but still gut nuked
1 week later
so around 140 that wanted a CE that could not lock one in and a Bunch that couldnt still are buying a lesser model of that group . So Jjp is not losing out all that much and 500 seemed to be the right number Of Collectables at a higher price.
I hope Slash signs them randomly like i heard he may be doing on some standards/ Cool times for Gnr pinball fans 
Ok. Last spam post in CE threads. I’m auctioning mine off for charity.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-guns-n-roses-ce#post-5918330
Quoted from CrazyLevi:These polls are not scientific. I said I'm in for a Standard and I have zero intention of ever buying a NIB game.
In other words your just trolling JJP threads to make what you think are clever remarks?
1 month later
I’m incredibly disappointed that I couldn’t get a CE never dreamed they’d be gone in hours. I’ll buy an LE but not new. Mainly bc I eventually hope to buy a CE somehow and don’t want to lose my butt selling and buying a bunch.
I also have hope that we get a 4th edition with signatures and that cool front skull on the shooter. GnR signatures alone are crazy expensive.
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