Nope, it's a bug. I'm having it too. If you lock during a mode, it will often just award the lock and then fail to kick out a new ball or eject one from the scoop (if you already have balls in the subway lock). It will go through 2-3 ball searches until it finally just kicks a new ball out. It's pretty frustrating.

It's not super common. In about 4-5 hours of play, I've seen it maybe 3 times now.

You were right, my 3rd Opto for the subway lock stopped working. Stern is sending me another... Weirdly enough, I took it out and the game seems to be working fine.

Anyone know of a way to test? Storage Facility multiball works still. Not familiar enough with the game to know what other modes I can test with..

Awesome, glad you were able to identify the issue.

Can anyone comment if the inconsistent spook central count down start on animation skip vs no skip has been changed. Making me trade points for my time annoys me.

Looks like it finally went live:

LE/PREMIUM V1.12 - December 9, 2016
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New:
- Slimer Mechanism - shut down device if the mechanism is unable to find the home switch.

Fixes:
- pinnode v0.19.8 - Fixed "weak flipper" issue. This bug manifested itself as a weak flipper
if the flipper EOS switch is working only intermittently during gameplay.
- Added family-friendly version of "We came, we saw..." at end of mode.
- Fixed "no playfield lights" issue caused when the Slimer home switch is not working.
- pinnode v0.20.0 (Fixed motor timeout logic).
- Fixed switch alerts for switches that are not on the LE/Premium:
"LEFT RAMP ENTER", "LEFT RAMP 2", "LEFT RAMP 3"

Great.
Now maybe Dwight can sneak out 1.13 so we can beta test it for him.
I don't mind being a guinea pig.

I had to go to page 2 just to find one of the various GB code threads. I guess with how thin the release notes are there isn't a ton to talk about, but I'd really like to know that this fixes the issues that popped up in 1.10 and 1.11. I skipped 1.11 because 1.10 had the new mode methodology and 1.11 had weak flipper issues. Fixing the video mode lockup and no having the weak flipper issue ever show up would be pretty great.

All these bugs are just disappointing. Potentially the best game in years hindered by sloppy programming bugs. I really want to buy this game but just can't knowing what the current state and support level is. I'm excited/hopeful that it'll get worked out but my confidence isn't high.

I finally updated my pro model on location to 1.12. I'd been waiting for it to be officially released before I did so. I wasn't going to update until the video mode lock up and the weak flippers were fixed. Since it sounds like they are, I'm giving it a try.

Sure there are some bugs, and all code for any product has bugs. I've been doing software for over 25 years and this is just a fact of life unless insane amounts of money are spent to make it less prone (think military and telecom).

I have 1.11 installed on our game and I tell you it is a blast to play and really hasn't caused me to care about any of the bugs that are there. I wouldn't even notice most if someone hadn't mentioned it before. Granted I haven't had a weak flipper problem, but that appears fixed now (and was really an EOS switch problem manifesting as a weak flipper which means they modified code to fix a potential hardware issue).

If you like the game and the theme get it, it's totally playable and insanely fun! Oh it is hard, so if you don't like having your butt kicked then you should probably pass, but that's part of the fun for this family...

well, cant be agree with this (friendly of course)
depends more of what "kind" of player you are...
than ok, GB is already nice as it, but with code improvement, it could become a real blast

Go for it. Game is amazing...

I remember someone trying to convince people the weak flipper issue was actually an EOS issue. Turns out they were right. Sounds like if you had the weak flipper issue on 1.11 you should look at you EOS.

then why isn't it present during 1.05 or 1.12?

How would you have any idea if this is a software issue? I'm sure it's not because everyone isn't reporting the it. Most likely switch related but there are no details other than "giving me errors" so too many assumptions and guesses to be made.

Perhaps those versions ignore the end of stroke switch.

Yea, i posted yesterday that it was not a software issue. Opto stopped working.

Also could be minimum switch threshold in coding. I remember Markmon telling me about this on the crossbow coding in TWD premium

My guess is 1.05 didn't cut off quick enough (or at all) so they made a change. Then anyone with non perfect switches started having issues. So now they've gone back and added some buffering to make sure the EOS is opened for at least so long before they kill the power.

It's very typical to have some sort of glitch protection for contacts like button presses or switches. Sometimes it takes adjusting because you want the smallest bounce time possible so they react the fastest.

If you were having the issue I'd still check the adjustments on your EOS.

This update is disappointing. Just some bugs fixed but not tweaks.

Do you think we get the final code?

ACDC and Met took years.... This game even though its been out for 10 months because of production delays its relatively new.

Ok but about gameplay, would it be added some improvements?

If your inserts fade they are actually purple. That's Stern "planning ahead."

I think the game play is all there. They explicitly said it was completed on release.

It's not, they don't even utilize all the inserts.

I went from 1.05 to 1.11 with out any issues on my LE. I can't see any reason to jump on 1.12. It's typical stern again, no big code update until the game has been out for at least a year....disappointing

yeah i've given up hope for a big update. I could have sworn I watched an interview with JT and he mentioned that Dwight had more things planned, but maybe it was an old interview and not real time. I increased my pitch on the playfield to almost 7 today and it does actually help with air balls and so far less time in the pops.

I'm sure the programmers at Stern are kept busy, but I'm continually surprised at the lack of updates. (And I work in software development.) While they do of course move on to new projects after launch, they were also on this long before it became public so it's kind of a wash. Are the frameworks and tooling just not robust? Limited code sharing?

Anyone else having issues with their flashers after the 1.12 update? When I installed 1.12 on my GB pro I set the flashers to "low" in the settings as I always do, and noticed they were just barely flickering (the one above the left scoop is most noticeable). When I set them back to "normal" I still get nothing.

Just curious to see if it's a "code" thing or a "me" thing.

Updated mine to 1.12. No issues so far.

updated to 1.12 but i did notice a noise at boot now like its firing a mech or something at end.

I'll try it on my pro. I need to update to 1.12 first which I am just downloading now.

Rob

That isn't a measure of code completion. Maybe Dwight decided (like Lyman did on acdc) that they weren't necessary.

MH MB completely sucks with the reverse flippers, and it pisses me off Dwight still has not given an option to disable it. At least put an audio cue in there that the flippers are being reversed.. such lazy coding

I won't get my GB Premium until Arcade Expo in March so l'll leave up to you guys to R&D the heck out of the game.

How does this valuable info get back to Stern? Are they monitoring/participating in Pinside or do one of you report in to headquarters periodically?

I wouldn't go so far as to blame Dwight for this. I wish we could have some indication of reverse flippers too as I hate it the way it is, but Dwight has a boss, and his hands could be tied. I'm sure personally he wants to please everyone as much as possible.

Let me add though, that I do understand the frustration!

I hope for Dwight's sanity he stopped trying to please us Internet forum types long ago...

Believe it or not, us internet forum types are the ones who buys games Dwight codes.. crazy right? lol

There are two bright inserts in the outlanes that would be great for this. When on - flippers are reversed....when off - flippers are normal.

All it would take is an obvious sound cue for when it changes. Wouldn't take anything more than that.

Maybe for home use it wouldn't more, but in a bar or arcade where you can barely hear it a visual cue would be more beneficial.

This is a great idea. At this point anything would be good as double flipping during mh mb is pretty lame.

Has anyone else noticed that with 1.12 on a GB Pro, sometimes the ball isn't diverted to the saucer for a lock?

Rob

seems i got it 1 time, i first think i was not following/looking good the game, but now you've said it...