and I think many people are now nervous buying into new Dwight coded games. For me I want to buy Munsters but not until I see how the code pans out and so far sounds like it is way too easy.

I was disappointed in that interview and his thoughts on the "mistake" of a mode and should not of made it to the card - excuses

I wanted to buy The Munsters but don't trust that he will improve that much, Stern should hand the GB code over to some of the newer and younger guys to improve as Dwight has lost his passion to improve it.

agree with much of you statement but more and more people are watching what Stern and Dwight are doing and holding off on purchasing coupled with Deeproot potential if they do what they say Stern may want to get better on code and game quality

I would love to buy Munsers but won't because it is Dwight coded and there are many others with the same thought, so it does affect Stern and it is in their best interest to complete and debug games otherwise people lose confidence.

Everyone has a different standpoint and mine is currently Dwight code but I also agree with a Stern standoff as well. I love the munsters looks, shoots well, rules are fun but shallow and not overly wow so don't want 2 games with incomplete code...

I think some of the new blood / and ones given the role to be lead programmer are showing great promise as have passion and want to stand out, as Deadpool is looking good and Tim sounds driven for the Black Knight and of course Lyman always comes through.

there was a munsters locally that went up for sale and took a month to sell and it sold for $1500 from retail value - people were holding back most probably due to code, I would of snapped it up but wasn't confident on the code so passed on it.

when you listen to Tim Balls about Black Knight you he is going to try hard to make the code awesome, Stern are just affecting their own sales with poor code and people will start to watch Dwight games carefully

Stern maybe owned by investors but they should give a flip as Stern relies heavily on home buyers and many home buyers buy more than one pinball. Yes the Trudeau factor may of had some effect at some stage but that was years ago now and he didn't program the game.

Personally I won't buy another Stern Pinball that Dwight programs until the code is at a decent level. I really wanted to get a Munsters but the code was very basic and not stimulating and even one locally struggled to sell $1.5k less than retail cost and it was only 1-2 months old, and many others held off as well as many were worried they would be bored quickly with it.

The problem is not just GB it is Dwight's programming approach and then when he does a interview he comes off as this is practically finished and I don't see any problem with it. Munsters could of been a great seller if it had some integrated story line modes in it. So for Stern this leads to a loss in sales in multiple games which will affect them and with a few new companies getting quicker with deliveries and more games soon to be released they have to pick up their approach otherwise more and more people are going to lose faith in Stern and go to other brands.

But 28 months wait for a code update with many many promises of a code update is appalling - let some of the newer younger guys polish it and with enthusiasm to prove themselves may turn this game into a real gem and restore some faith into the Stern buyers.

did you tell gomez your thoughts on Dwight games and selling MunLE? curious what the response will be..

that's poor form

hopefully someone else is on Elivra 3 otherwise GB will never get done, which then would say Stern couldn't give a sh#t

on Stern's website it stats 2018 but the last update v1.13 - Jan 2017

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Australia is getting a batch of Premium's in July so they must of made those in the last 1-2 months.

just posting here as was brought up in the JP@ thread and the GB Code thread as people are saying the gap is larger than Trudeau's typical flipper gap.

Flipper Gap Myth Solved as a few years ago, as I had a quick discussion with Trudeau which started when we discussed the Snackbar mod I did for his designed game CFTBL

- The Flipper gap is a result of the flipper post placement & the angle of the flippers
- Stern's standard flipper post placement is 7" hole centres
- Trudeau's stanard signature flipper post placement is 7 1/8" hole centres on all games
- GB has the same flipper post placement is 7 1/8" hole centres
- what makes the flipper gap larger is how the flippers were angled lower than the inlane guides angle

2 Solutions
- lift the flippers so the front face / rubber are inline with the inlane feed rails which brings the game's flipper similar to all his other games
- add carrots or even my quick swap out flippers which both are 1/8" longer which then narrows up the gap to narrower than a standard Stern

I recommend the 1st option and it only makes you a better player, hope that helps

that "Are you a God" wizard mode needs to be a fun mini game at start up - left flipper for regular game and right flipper for "Are you a God" mini game like a P3 game option

looked fun as hell

we know it's coming and just a matter of waiting just a little while longer which compared to 32 months is nothing.

in the stream dwight stated he showed more than what he wanted so there will be other little polished items and maybe with the chatter of the wizard mode being made as a mini game maybe be worked on so worth the wait of a few weeks - would love this as a right button and start mini game only

as for the slimer multiball, it would be a nice one for the novices to aim for and maybe only one slimer MB per ball. Spell GHOST with five hits, slimer drops down and hit him once to start a 2-3 multiball and the goal is slimer is going up and down or side to side depending on model and have to hit him as many times as possible during the multiball for 500k per hit. Then it is a easy one for the kids and novices to go after and they feel they have achieved something and keeps them coming back.

come-on dwight and team you can do it

lol.. I did persist a little on that and I believe he could see the potential just with him playing with the guys as he wanted to put the "God Mode" in as well and so stoked that it is in already which is a bonus, but like you toddsolus I would like it at the front end as well so you don't have to go into the cabinet / menu to get it up but looking forward to the weekend to get this in and playing. This option may come later but at least it is there and so stoked for that added bonus since the stream - thanks Dwight and team.

I asked him for that and it would be good but at least we got it in there which will be good for head to head competition and freeplay at home for the moment but yes never thought of the ease to suit an arcade environment.

just had a solid session with the kids playing "God Mode" which was a heap of fun and the kids loved it

even better is that the kids interest died there for a while but the new update renewed their interest as they loved the multiball mini game and I can't get them off to play a regular game - which is not a bad thing

thanks Dwight and Team

Had a good session with the kids and noticed 2 bugs during "God Mode" and reported them to Dwight, so keep an eye on them and confirm if it happens with you guys as well.

Bug 1 - left flip + start does not end the game in “God Mode” when at the 2nd and 3rd player point on 2 occasions just added another player

Bug 2 - if you are playing 2 player “God Mode” and during the 2nd player the start is pushed to allow a 3rd player it adds Player 3 BUT it also adds an extra ball / turn to the 2nd player after their God Mode turn is completed but the extra ball is in a regular game and lights mode and not in a “God Mode” - we let it drain and then 3rd player god mode starts as regular. We had this same sort of thing happen a couple of random times as well when we started the comp with 3 - 4 players from the beginning before player 1 starts and it added the weird extra ball after the god mode of player 2 on 2 occassions. So there seems a random bug between player 2 and 3.

noticed an update but a shame that "god mode" can't be started via a flipper code on start for arcades and home to avoid opening the door.

but at least they fixed a few little things

I have hit up Dwight for this from the beginning - this would be a great option and great at a arcade as well