I think so. I can see them in pinbrowser. But I don't think you can add more.

Overall, the new code sounds great. And it seems like much of the changes are setting adjustable so certain new things can be dialed back to "original" if you want.

I'm not sure about slimer coming out on one hit though.

And my number one pet peeve with the storage facility lights being reversed is still the same.

I'm qoing to make them both red. It's the only thing that makes sense to me given the code constraints. But it makes the most sense that the 1st contained ghost is green, the second is red, and the 3rd lights the siren.

Current state is that first ghost in storage facility lights the red light. 2nd ghost lights the green light. 3rd ghost lights the red siren, the first red light, and all the other red lights.
So I can't just swap the red and green around or the 3rd ghost will light one green amongst all the other reds.
I don't know why it goes from red to green as it becomes "more unstable."

I'm going to make them both red. It's the only thing that makes sense to me given the code constraints. But it makes the most sense that the 1st contained ghost is green, the second is red, and the 3rd lights the siren.

Current state is that first ghost in storage facility lights the red light. 2nd ghost lights the green light. 3rd ghost lights the red siren, the first red light, and all the other red lights.
So I can't just swap the red and green around or the 3rd ghost will light one green amongst all the other reds.
I don't know why it goes from red to green as it becomes "more unstable."

Hmm... I wonder if I can replace the green light with a blinking red light?

I can't even imagine why they would go out of their way to remove it.

Then it would go from red with the 1st ghost to yellow with the 2nd. That seems like a de-escelation?

That would be amazing. I love all the code, but this is a huge source of confusion for people new to the game, and a big incongruity for me that is noticeable in literally every game I play!

Expectation: Green, then red, then siren
Reality: Red, then green, then siren!

Yeah, that's certainly a valid viewpoint.

But I don't think it is as intuitive as it could be that:
1st ghost in containment lights an ominous red light.
2nd ghost in containment lights a "everything seems safe" green light.
3rd ghost in containment lights a red siren and the 1st red light but not the 2nd green light.

Ideally, color changing lights would have been great here, but we are past that point.

I just re-watched this scene:

It looks like there is an opportunity in code to better match this effect.

1st ball lights the red light, and with a sound effect, it then changes to green to indicate it is safely stored.
2nd ball lights the red light, but that light stays on, and the green light can stay on too, but a sound effect indicates a looming problem.
3rd ball lights the siren and the green light turn off.

I didn't notice any change. In fact, they made a specific reference to not making any real changes to the containment multi-ball. But I could have missed it.

If I did, then the 3rd ball lock would light all the red lights, except one green light. As it is now, it lights all the red lights.

Yes; they said there was no plans currently.

You are not crazy. It is just the difference between the current state - which is an imprecise summery of the movie rule-set that no one really remembers exactly until they re-watch the video, and another imprecise summery of the movie rule set (that may arguably be based slightly more loosely on the movie) but is a more intuitive state. The fact is that the device changes from dangerous to safe to emergency in a way that seems incongruous with a 1st, 2nd, 3rd ball trigger, and the rationale isn't explained as well as it could be.

I would be equally happy if they used sound effects, text, or call outs to explain the logic of the 1st 2nd 3rd ball as well. For example, if they made it clear that 1st ball is ghost is loaded, 2nd ball is ghost is safely transferred, and 3rd ball is the shutdown of the containment field, (which to your point, is what I think they were aiming for, although then the red light should be turned off on the 2nd ball when the green light comes on) -- and all of that was actually obvious in-game -- then great!

But as it is now, you have an incremental progression of 1st, 2nd and 3rd balls with lights that go (1) red, (2) red-green, and finally (3) red-red. It looks weird and could have used an update explaining it better.

It isn't like the movie. The red light does not turn off when the green light turns on. Nor are there callouts with any of that phrasing. It creates confusion as to the purpose that could be easily rectified. It is one of the major happenings in nearly every game and it is an extremely weak implementation that deserved to be revisited.

Also, the movie doesn't involve locking 3 balls in sequence. The pinball rules should blend with the movie in an intuitive way. The messaging is about balls 1, 2 and 3 being locked. Then an alarm. The messaging could have been much better, and the mismatched lighting doesn't help.

Ha. I think your right!

Maybe I'm the only one who thinks it could be better, then.

For what it's worth, after re-watching a portion of the deadflip stream, I noticed that the new code is v1.15.xx

Your tone makes it difficult to discuss it. You make it seem like I can't count to 3 and follow the game. I was merely sharing my opinion that there is room for improvement because the locks do not coincide with the movie nor logical game play. In fact, I posted that video earlier as evidence that they do not coordinate. If you care to discuss it, then look at the game logic:

1st ball locked will BLINK the red light, and then the red light turns solid after a few seconds. Sound clips do not match inserting a trap. What is the significance of a blinking red light that then turns solid red? The movie goes red, to green.

2nd ball locked BLINKS the green light, then the green light stays solid, while the red light continues to stay on the whole time. Why? Does the 1st ball indicate the trap is in. And getting a 2nd ball in, suggests the trap is clean and can be removed? If so, why are both lights blinking and remaining on the same way?

And if that movie line is so iconic, why not implement it during the game. Isn't this the prefect place for it?

Sure, we can all figure out that we've locked up another ball. But to say it is the same as the movie or that there isn't room for improvement is unfair.

Thank you. Of course you are right. Sometimes discussing a trivial thing makes it seem like it isn't trivial and not worthy of discussion.

My original point for bringing it up is that the storage multi-ball is a pretty big happening that occurs in almost every game (especially given the current code that makes other neat things harder to achieve). I see it all the time, and to my eye, it was always weird that it went, red to green to emergency. I know the movie goes from red to green when they are cleaning a trap, and the game needs to blend the movie logic with what 1, 2 and 3 balls do in game, but given how big of a moment achieving storage multi-ball is (especially for the more casual players), I would have liked them to spend some time enhancing it. Blinking red lights that turn into solid red lights, Red lights that stay on when green lights come on, getting a 2nd ball locked in is equated to pulling a trap out... it is all just a bit disjointed to me.

To your point, it isn't a big deal, but it was worthy of revisiting in my opinion.

I do appreciate you taking the time to read my thoughts and put together a response and participate in the discussion. I certainly understand your view. And apparently, so do the folks at Stern considering they opted for the method you are faithfully supporting. I did not intend to insult you by referencing that the movie doesn't lock balls. It was intended to highlight the point that the two mediums do not line up perfectly. If you think it is great the way it is, you are certainly entitled to that opinion, and should be very happy with that feature of the game, as-is. I still think there exists better methods of synchronizing the game with the movie and making the experience better overall, both visually and with sound. But that's just me, and it's moot anyway given that they said they didn't really change anything with the storage facility.

Yes. He's kidding. He actually thinks there was real merit in the discussion and appreciates the free exchange of opinion on the subject.

Could you clarify the 2nd one?

It's Pinside. There were 3 posts discussing an opinion on a subject. 3 posts arguing that the person shouldn't have that opinion. And 20 posts about how there are too many posts on the subject.

Banging my head against the wall? No.

Checking the website for the new code every few hours? Yup.

Banging my head against the wall? No.

Checking the website for the new code every few hours? Yup.

Does he still come out on occasion to slime the playfield? Even if he heads back immediately... It's fun to see him in action and I rather liked the parallel clean-up-the-slime gameplay.

I heard they are working on a new mode called, "Are you still a God?" and are starting to think about a successor called, "What about now?"

HA!

So you all know it's here, right?

This is going to be fun!

Sure can!

If set to GOD MODE, when you start a game you will start at the begining
of "We Are Ready To Believe You" wizard mode. You can add players or you
can plunge the ball. Plunging the ball will start the multiball.
- If you complete "We Are Ready To Believe You" you will start "ARE YOU A
GOD?". When "ARE YOU A GOD?" ends your game will end.
- If you do not complete "We Are Ready To Believe You" the game will end.
- Added a GOD MODE champion. If the game is set to NORMAL this will not be
seen in the attract mode.
- If GOD MODE is enabled you cannot MATCH, win a replay, or qualify for
other high scores champions.

Does anyone know about how long colordmd has responded to code changes in the past? I'm trying to set expectations.

They have. I recently installed it and it is great.

Ditto. I went through 8 memory sticks before one worked. And I used ones that worked before. All formatted, and reformatted the same way. It just took some persistence.

If it helps, the few times I had a loose cable, I ziptied them together. I figured if they came loose once...

It seems as though ColorDMD has updated their code. Has anyone tried it?

EDIT: Nevermind... It looks like they just updated the code for their display port function.