So where is the code its not on the stern website

Code doesn't drop until next week. No exact ETA.

Take a look at the market- never seen so many wanted. Excited to plug this in to mine! Just wish stern would make a few more toppers though

I would not be surprised if there is a few other cools new things that were left out in the twitch feed.

Next Week

In truth, he should have totally recoded Who Brought the Dog. Everyone’s sick of it.

Are people sick of playing it or just hearing him say it?
It's a simple little mode that takes less then 2 min and you move on.
If you dont want to hear it, hit both flippers and it starts without it.
Not sure what the deal is about this mode?

Some people need something to bitch about.

This is pinside. Of course everyone needs something to bitch about!

I already know the code is going to get torn apart and dissected by the masses. Nothing will ever please everybody.

I think its the fact that the modes started so easily and many times automatically when you may have been working the other ladders. It starts on the easiest to hit shot in the game. It is all being addressed even if not directly. I am stoked.

On the stream, I thought Dwight mentioned something about not having to play the modes in order anymore. Did I mishear or am I just confused?

I'm assuming I misheard because it doesn't make sense to play the modes out of order since they are in chronological movie order.

Thank you for clearing that up for me.

Where’s the stinking code, heard it was great?

I was a young man when the previous version came out 32 months ago. No graying beard, 20/20 vision, earwax removed. Today you wouldn’t recognize me, but I can still enjoy playing a mean pinball. 110% confident GB code is coming soon and early reports are the coders hit a grand slam out of the park. Standing by ....

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Does anyone else think the new playfield x rules are actually too easy now? What it sounds like is any left ramp to left targets shot will light an x value, which means 2 combos lights both x targets, and it doesn’t get any harder. I would hate to see tournament games be decided by ”Well I hit one more left ramp combo than you, so I win.” Hopefully it’s a setting or it gets progressively harder. That being said, I like it much better than the “luck plunge to light 6x”

Wish there was more multi ball modes

There are several, but most of them are pretty deep into the game.

It's "next week," where is the code? I can't even play on the 1.13 code anymore now that I've seen what's coming! ColorDMD is in the mail and I've got my usb stick formatted and waiting!

I could barely sleep... give it to us

Heard today or tomorrow

For what it's worth, after re-watching a portion of the deadflip stream, I noticed that the new code is v1.15.xx

10 bucks for Wednesday

It was pretty much same rules as the old we came we saw. I got there a few times before I sold my GB to fund my Batman.

Since Stay Puft mode has been significantly nerfed scoring wise, I doubt you will see the same ladder stack over and over.

Watch this:

Green light is on. I don't remember if the green light is usually on in the game or not.

Unlock the system, insert the trap, close and lock the system (red light goes on, green light goes off)

Then, light is green, trap is clean.

Later, there is an alarm when the containment unit is shut down.

You don't need callouts with that phrasing. The DMD tells you VERY clearly what you're doing. Are you seriously stuck staring at the light wondering why the green or red is on at any given point in time? If you are, look at the DMD. It makes the rules blend with the movie in an intuitive way.

Okay.....That is the Funniest thing I've seen on Pinside in a long time...way to go!!!!!

I’m thinking midweek like Wednesday. Jeez guys chill. Let him take in all the feedback after the stream and do a bit of polish. Still waiting to hear from ColorDMD...it would be nice if they would acknowledge that they will be releasing the update at the same time or VERY soon (don’t forget to fix the river of slime to pink)

Your tone makes it difficult to discuss it. You make it seem like I can't count to 3 and follow the game. I was merely sharing my opinion that there is room for improvement because the locks do not coincide with the movie nor logical game play. In fact, I posted that video earlier as evidence that they do not coordinate. If you care to discuss it, then look at the game logic:

1st ball locked will BLINK the red light, and then the red light turns solid after a few seconds. Sound clips do not match inserting a trap. What is the significance of a blinking red light that then turns solid red? The movie goes red, to green.

2nd ball locked BLINKS the green light, then the green light stays solid, while the red light continues to stay on the whole time. Why? Does the 1st ball indicate the trap is in. And getting a 2nd ball in, suggests the trap is clean and can be removed? If so, why are both lights blinking and remaining on the same way?

And if that movie line is so iconic, why not implement it during the game. Isn't this the prefect place for it?

Sure, we can all figure out that we've locked up another ball. But to say it is the same as the movie or that there isn't room for improvement is unfair.

You're making it too complicated. It is meant as a visual indication of how many balls the player has locked. And they made it mimic the movie as close as possible with the 2 lights they have, while also still giving the player that visual indication. It is a loose interpretation and was never meant to behave exactly as that scene.

Thank you. Of course you are right. Sometimes discussing a trivial thing makes it seem like it isn't trivial and not worthy of discussion.

My original point for bringing it up is that the storage multi-ball is a pretty big happening that occurs in almost every game (especially given the current code that makes other neat things harder to achieve). I see it all the time, and to my eye, it was always weird that it went, red to green to emergency. I know the movie goes from red to green when they are cleaning a trap, and the game needs to blend the movie logic with what 1, 2 and 3 balls do in game, but given how big of a moment achieving storage multi-ball is (especially for the more casual players), I would have liked them to spend some time enhancing it. Blinking red lights that turn into solid red lights, Red lights that stay on when green lights come on, getting a 2nd ball locked in is equated to pulling a trap out... it is all just a bit disjointed to me.

To your point, it isn't a big deal, but it was worthy of revisiting in my opinion.

I too hope that this can be adjusted. Not a big fan of just letting modes timeout etc. I feel the shots should be completed in order to finish the stage.

This adjustment has been in 1.13 I doubt they will remove it.

Modes can't be timed out by just holding the ball. This has existed since Star Trek. If you trap up, the timer will stop after (I think) 4 seconds and won't start again until you hit a switch. This will at least force you to put the ball into play, and danger, while the mode counts down.

I'm indifferent on it filling the mode insert after the timer runs out. I don't want to call it complete, or finished, because it doesn't give you a cash out for finishing. I don't think GB does this, but there are games that do give you a bump for finishing the mode. Anyway, the only mode I though was too much for a 40 second timer or the GB layout (i.e. drains) is Gozer. If I could survive timing that out, while obviously trying to actually do the mode, drain, and then plunge into Stay Puft on the next skill shot, that would be pretty intimidating for another player.

And mayors door to brown perhaps?

I wasn't intending to be harsh, but when you've said this you've called it things like "weak implementation" and you stated to me that the movie doesn't include locking three balls, like I'm an idiot who doesn't realize that. So, excuse me for my response sounding harsh, I'll try realizing that pinball machines use balls from here on our while I try to discuss this.

My question that I think you took offense to was real, by the way - are you *really* staring at just the lights on the playfield to indicate what is going on with it? If so, I can see your confusion, but the majority of people, particularly those watching someone else play, will look at the DMD to understand what is going on. The DMD makes it really clear what is going on.

The BLINKING that you are now highlighting above is a common occurrence in pinball machines to indicate where a ball is. It is supposed to be a blending of the two mediums, not the exact same.

As for not including that line, it wouldn't make sense as to what is going on in the same intuitive way.

Look, I can say this with some knowledge behind it - most people playing the game don't stare at the lights and try to figure out what is going on using mainly them, they instead either take the attitude of "just flip" or look up at the DMD from time to time to see what they are doing. They will also take audio cues.

Locking the second ball and declaring the 'light is green, trap is clean' is not intuitive in the pinball world. Does that mean you just lost your ball? Maybe it cleared out the earlier locked ball? Now you're stuck trying to read the DMD and interpret the audio cue. It doesn't make sense.

The lights aren't labeled. They don't have nearly the same issue, so having the light pattern attempt to roughly follow the movie scene makes sense.

I do appreciate you taking the time to read my thoughts and put together a response and participate in the discussion. I certainly understand your view. And apparently, so do the folks at Stern considering they opted for the method you are faithfully supporting. I did not intend to insult you by referencing that the movie doesn't lock balls. It was intended to highlight the point that the two mediums do not line up perfectly. If you think it is great the way it is, you are certainly entitled to that opinion, and should be very happy with that feature of the game, as-is. I still think there exists better methods of synchronizing the game with the movie and making the experience better overall, both visually and with sound. But that's just me, and it's moot anyway given that they said they didn't really change anything with the storage facility.

Same here

I think you two are the only people on the planet who even remotely care about those lights.

I believe it was "We Came, We Saw..." with the added rule that you could lock balls to start an instance of Loopin' Supers.

I think this is a welcome change and all the better to let folks change it if they wish. At my house I am the only one making it to the later ladder modes, mass hysteria, we came we saw, etc. This seems like it will open up some new things to folks. That's a win on a tough playing machine.

Damn... all these posts I thought it was because the new code dropped.