What kind of java beans are they serving at Stern HQ? Did you ask for top shelf?

I just don't understand why it has to be such a big secret. Why not just say..."hey we hear you guys, we have an epic update coming but we are ensuring we get it right before we release it...we anticipate releasing it in _____ 2019."

They would actually have to start working on the update to be able to put an estimated date on when it will be finished.

Where's the library insert?

If you ignore code and layout - what's left? You like the artwork?

I think the layout is fine. After getting mine dialed in I've found cheap drains to be pretty rare. The code really shows its weakness when you have it at home and you play it a lot. I think it could be a top 5 game, but I would have a hard time recommending it just because it feels unfinished with the code.

haha - yeah that's a good point so maybe it's not really the layout but mostly code. Art, music, effects, etc they're all great and not always a given from stern.

Librarian actually.

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Exactly. I haven't since I bought STLE & someone at Stern told me "who cares, we have your money" when I inquired about a game feature not having any function....and never will again.

At this point, if you're on this site & pay attention to things, yes, it is the customer's fault. Games launching untested and unfinished IS WHAT STERN DOES.

What's it supposed to do?

Perhaps someone from Stern could answer the question.

Bahaha your kidding yourself if you think $tern would answer to any question truthfully.

You act surprised. Only reason some of dwight games actually shine via code is due to the support/efforts from other team members.

I own a GB PRO and I agree it needs a major update. But to give Dwight some credit, my GOT Prem was pretty fun and pretty complete from day 1. Still needs a polish and maybe update to current seasons but it’s a great game with deep code. So Dwight can do it and once he does with GB it will be a classic.

So then what's the issue ? I don't understand. If it doesn't have a purpose why would it light?

Maybe it lights during wizard mode? Have you beat the game?

Are you talking about the advertised wizard mode they never coded?

To be clear, I love the shit out of this game and would love it to be the most polished thing of all-time, but the game has plenty of "code support" and depth in the rules and modes we have currently in v1.13. Also:

* The librarian insert lights up at the end of "Back Off Man!", there are no unused inserts on GB.
* Balanced scoring would be nice to have but doesn't make the game incomplete.
* A Slimer multiball is something made up and would be nice to have but doesn't make the game incomplete. The game already has 4 multiballs!
* Which leaves us with a super wizard mode. I know it is mentioned in the settings menus and on the rules card. You can't claim it would add very much depth to the game though when you consider how rare the normal wizard mode is.

Sure there is. You get to the wizard mode that exists by beating all 9 movie scenes. Pretty challenging and satisfying IMO!

I mean this nicely... you should stop being so melodramatic. It makes your posts hard to take seriously and there is plenty to complain about without making things up like "false advertising" and "unused inserts." Makes me wonder if you have actually completed all 9 scenes if you didn't know the Librarian insert lights up

So after you complete the modes, and the librarian insert lights up, I assume you would try to hit the scoop shot to collect, correct? So if you hit the scoop when its lit, it does not reward anything at that point?

easy (lazy) coding for LIBRARIAN insert could be : cards video mode
and than having the dont cross the scream video mode on the other scoop

IF code receives an overhaul (29 months and counting and unsure it will come) and IF significant changes are made to the rule structure, Ghostbusters COULD BECOME a brand new game. I can imagine GB vault being run and the game being promoted.

I’ve read a handful of good ideas lately that should be evaluated and implemented by some crafty software programmers at Stern. There are many long standing ideas in the we want code thread that are promising too. Stern could come out smelling like roses if they revised and polished the code while offering GB vault pros and premiums for sale again.

You knew this when you bought it. Also there’s no way anyone could ever get to a wizard mode since the only mode in the game is “Who Brought The Dog, Airball, Drain”.

“Who Brought The Dog, Airball, Drain”
Dang it, I almost fell of my chair.

Since we're wishing for things that will never happen, I'd love to be able to skip some of the video animations like ball lock and extra ball.

So the tiny paper 3x5 instruction card is "advertising" for a pinball machine to you. That is silly, but OK. Literally zero people who bought this game did so because of something they saw on the instruction card. It would be lovely to have AYAG added, but to claim that it makes the game not worth the money is complete nonsense.

You are moving the goalposts and continuing to make stuff up. First you said the insert didn't light up at all and now it lights "randomly"... and even that is incorrect! The insert doesn't light randomly, it lights because you are completing the movie mode where you sneak up on the librarian ghost. So the librarian insert lights up.

You can do that now by going into the menus and turning on "Abbreviated Choreography."

A lot of mode animations can be cancelled the old school way of hitting both flipper buttons as well.

It does. It completes the mode and rewards you a jackpot and also lights the mini-wizard mode to start.

OP either doesn't own this game and doesn't play it or is a troll. He has been making stuff up for a while now.

I mean with the flipper buttons. I want it to be on for other people but to be able to skip it without having to go into the settings every game.

did i missed that than ?
as yes, i've done it to WARTBY...

anyway, that doesnt change what i think about GB code, and pity because as lot of others, i think this game could be at the top for sure

Here we go again...tired argument followed by tired response..."WGO-HSM-TB-WCWS / SL-BOM-WCWS, protectors, play better"

Don't bother trying to apply logic here. The complaints are so weak compared to the crying. I dont think you'll get anywhere.

I have to disagree I hope Stern updates the code I ended up getting rid of my GB within a month of owning as I just got tired of the code. It was just terrible to use for friendly competition games with friends every one would just play the dumb video mode or play the same repetitive modes which was Spook librarian Back off man and go right into we came we saw and we kicked it's ass or just play the right loop ladder. I just hope to see in the new code more of a balanced scoring making all the modes balanced scoring wise and nerf the video mode it's way too valuable.

The same reason it's a "big secret" when the rollercoaster is going to be running again. It makes zero sense to make promises you aren't sure you can keep, even if you have an idea.

After 29 months of promising an update, it's time to give a release date and keep it. If they had never promised another update it would be one thing and we could all just consider the game to have permanent flaws, but 29 months of empty promises is even worse in my opinion. It's adding insult to injury.

I just wish Stern could get everyone on the same page. If there is an update coming, don't have the lead programmer saying he considers the code finished. If there is no update coming, don't have your marketing person say there is an update coming.

I wish Stern would stop saying anything to the public, because it just makes people bitch about empty “promises” and shove any simple comment back down Sterns throat.
Prolly just a matter of time, any post they make now just gets shit on with GB code enforcement. So tiring.

I agree it sucks as a competition game due to the video mode points being way high. In league we just have a gentleman's agreement not to go for it. My point is that the level of crying on this thread makes it sound like the game is worthless and unplayable (Which is it for low skill players due to geometry). You did exactly what I suggested. Sell the machine and move on if you don't like it. I did the same with Guardians; I found the game to be horrible at best codewise.

I do think Stern is being an absolute turd by promising an update and not following thru. It's almost worse than when they used to tell us nothing at all.

Fingers crossed we get an update soon. I want to see that librarian insert lit up in all it's glory!!

If the tiny paper stuck on the inside of the window of my new car says it has heated seats, it better damn well have heated seats.

I'm coming over to your league to play some video modes!

You should. I'll hook you up with a poster.

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That's a pretty cool design Matt you should use that design for some T Shirts.

Guardians became pretty darn fun in the last code update... How long ago did you sell it? I don't really care much for the theme, but I have a great time playing it.

Awhile ago. I hated the movie clips playing over the generic hit the lit arrow shots. The game had no soul. If you didn't finish the movie clip would just replay. I just found it so dull. I got it at the same time as dead pool which is no comparison as to the world under glass feel.

This year is also the 30th anniversary of Ghostbusters 2. Code update confirmed!