Quoted from beatmaster:
still on the fence, might be in on a pro... and put MY license plate on it, lol.
Sounds like a great idea Bob.
Quoted from Toasterdog:
I have a hard time visualizing add-on trim. What color would you do?
Pink, light blue. Maybe white? I would probably lean chrome if I was going to add custom armor.
The really knocked the art out of the park on all the cabinet version.
I think I'm gonna go with Candy Raspberry armor and apron.
Quoted from Mitch:
No his is a done up premium it has all the features unlike your so call Promium. the pinball refinery premiums are amazing!!!
Oh I thought it was a Pro.
Quoted from Mitch:
plus Toyota are one of the most reliable cars with the best resale so what's the problem.
That's why my Mustang Pro has been perfect since I unboxed it.
I just read that we had 400 people go through the door at the MPLS release party. WOW!!!
Oh man, at times people were standing shoulder to shoulder talkin and drinkin but they were still able to play the games. At one time I saw 15 waiting to play the 2 GB's. Everyone got to play all the games and Hobbit was a hit too. I wish we could have parties like that more often.
Here's my $25 total topper, I'm cheap, a little over the top but so is the artwork of the game. My room is black light so I painted the teeth and whites of the eyes bl reactive so they light up.
Quoted from Ballypin:
MustangPaul that slimer looks cool. How big is it? Where did you find it?
Got it from mypartyshirt.com, $15.93 shipped. Size 15x15 inches. It can be found on page 3 on their site. In my picture it's lit up from behind by the sun. I painted a board flat black and painted it white where it mounts and lit it with 4 white led strips. They also have a GB sign on page 1, same size and same price. I've been thinking about getting that one too and lighting it up the same way as the other one.
I'm in the club, picked up my Pro at our 3rd Annual Pinball BBQ. It's almost new, by the end of the night it had a couple hundred games on it. Now the nodding begins, first to go on were my red Leg Light_ups and beatmasters red shooter housing light up. Everyone there said they looked great on the game. One thing I noticed were the balls in the game, they looked and felt like Pinballlife's Oh So Shiny balls so I'm leaving them in. I've got the parts for another custom mod, I hope I can make it work cuz I've never seen or heard of anything like what I'm attempting to do. Keeping my fingers crossed. Oh and high score for the evening was a bit over 200mil.
Here's my pro at the Pinball BBQ yesterday with my red LED Leg Light-Ups and beatmasters red Shooter Housing Light-Up on it.
Quoted from Rokablly:
Yes, I will be ordering them for sure just not sure if I'll get 1 or 2 sets. Plus I've already spent almost $400 on a game I don't even have yet.
OK sounds good. I bought a bunch of stuff for mine before I got it too so your not alone and I have the expensive stuff yet to buy.
Quoted from jeffsgames:
Looks like we have another case of needing a US supplier to start offering them. Those are sweet but I doubt many people would pay to ship individually.
Yeah the shipping kills it for me too as does buying anything from them really. Can't fault them though, they are just to far away for us in the US. Nice for the guys in Europe though. Funny no one over here offers them.
Quoted from Fortytwo:
I just noticed the center post bracket is made from acrylic!!!! Do some research and use polycarbonate. Acrylic is brittle in comparison. When I home make one I use poly, they use it in industry fo machine guards, bullet proof, and cold form it. I would have a hard time paying for special peices made out of acrylic.
Sorry for the rant but just floored about material choice.
Probably their rip off.......I mean profit margin wasn't big enough using the good stuff.
I think my GB Pro likes me. What a rush when you hit the right ramp SOLID and the ball goes all the way up the ramp to the 3rd switch and comes FLYING back down...did it twice too. Didn't have a single out lane hop over too. This was only about my 30th game too.
Quoted from jar155:
Seriously, that's a super satisfying shot. I have an LE coming, and its right ramp is great, but it lacks that same rush.
Yes it is when you nail it not just dribble it up to the first or second switch. It rebounded off that back gate so hard it shot back down. What a RUSH.
Question...are the only tapable 12v flashers the 2 Ghost Trap flashers on the pf back board, I "think" so. I want to put flashers under the 2 cutouts on my LE style apron. I have 2 custom mini "translights" to put in the cutouts and I want to light them up somehow. Any suggestions on another way to light them up with flashers? These Spike games don't have very many options I'm finding. Thanks
Quoted from MrBellMan:
Has anyone replaced the head T-Molding to a different color? Was it easy to replace?
Yes I did, very easy. When you take off the old molding make sure the channel is clean, pay attention to where the old molding is notched and use a rubber hammer to tap it in as you go.
Quoted from desertT1:
Does that change with the mode lights? I'd give that a try if it did.
No they don't but they do fade and flash but the controler isn't very good so they don't fade very nicely. They do have 5 or 6 different brightness level's which is nice.
Quoted from golfingdad1:
Paul , where did you get those T-Molding led strips ?
The T molding comes from T-molding.com and the RGB strips and just plain RGB non waterproof strips you slide into a channel in the molding. $4 per foot with a minimum of 15ft, each side is a bit over 6ft. I just wish the molding was more frosted to get rid of more of the led hot spotting. They sell the RGB strips and controler but you can find them way cheaper on ebay....like half the price with free shipping.
Quoted from LOTR_breath:
Yes, go for the GHOST target while the ball save is still on, then pound the Slimer as quickly as possible. It is possible to do all this and get the first modes flashing all while ball save is still active. Learn to backhand the right loop from a trap on the right flipper. Learn to post pass from left to right to set up the ramp shot. Practice the left scoop shot. It is a difficult shot but possibly the most important shot in the game.
So it is a matter of "play better".
I just installed a color changing RGB strip in my shooter lane. It lights it up really nice.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:
i'd think that would be blinding and have a lot of glare off the glass. I usually do my best to reduce the light coming from the backbox in every way possible.
On the lowest brightness setting it's not a problem at all, the tl reflection on the glass is what's REALLY bad on this game. The reflection of the lit T molding is way off to the sides on the glass, where the black of the cab sides are so it's not on the pf at all. Will PDI glass get rid of the tl reflection on the glass?
Quoted from CaptainNeo:
no, PDI glass doesn't really get rid of any glare. It reduces it, but you still have about 30% still there. To reduce backbox glare. I use the LED backbox panels and have the whites on the adjustable section. So I can lower the brightness of the backbox. Then I reduce it about 80%. most people can't even tell that it's that low, and the backbox glare is almost gone. Even on transformers, which usually has a dark playfield and terrible translite glare.
Quoted from lapean111:
I put duct tape over the fluorescent bulb as a diffuser. Works perfectly to get rid of the glare.
But this is a Spike game with those killer bright leds in the bb. Is there a menu setting to turn them down?
Quoted from Schwaggs:
I use LED backbox panels in my older Sterns with a blanking circuit that turns off the backbox lighting when you start a game.
I wish Stern would put a menu setting where you could turn off or drastically dim (user selectable) the Spike LEDs when you start a game. Could be as simple as "Backbox level when in game" set from 0-100%
I've got those dimming panels in a couple games and like how they dim when you start a game.
I wish they would do that for the bb lighting also, it really wipes out the view of the upper 1/3 of the pf on GB.
Got my Stern art blades on and they look GREAT! But let me tell you the backing is SUPER sticky and once they're down their DOWN....no second chances.
Got my Speakerlightkits installed today, took about 20 minutes. I mounted the lights first then the grill then the speaker. I did it that way cuz I have GB key fob pieces stuck on to the grill so the lights light them up. Looks great. The key fobs give it a nice 3d effect when lit from the front or should I say sides.
Hey guys, my Ghost Trap mini domes on the backboard don't flash bright at all, they have 8 led standard 12v bulbs in them but they hardly light up at all, in fact only 2 of the 8 leds on the bulb light up dimly at all. In the menu the flasher settings only has dim and normal for settings. I tried different bulbs and no change. They use flashers on pc's everywhere else in the game so why not here? Are yours that dim also? I was hoping they were 12v cuz I'd wanted to tie into them for a flasher mod, now I can't. Thanks Stern.
Quoted from kapsreiter:
?!? all Ghostbusters Leds % flashers are now 5Volt not longer 12 V
i think this is the same at all spike machines
All the other flashers on the game are the 5v pcb type, only the 2 under the mini domes have 12v sockets and bulbs.
Quoted from chuckwurt:
Right so maybe his domes had 12v ones installed by mistake? Would that cause them to be dim? Put one of the other flashers from the game in those sockets and make sure they say 5v on them.
Mine was a first run game but I don't see how Stern could make a mistake like that. There's no way to put another flasher in the sockets, the pcb's have no socket. LOL
Could another Pro owner check theirs and post here?
Quoted from 27dnast:
You guys that have had the pro for a while. How's the gameplay standing up to home use?
I've played the pro on location four or five different occasions, and every time I walk away feeling like its a really fun game. Seriously considering this one...
I've had mine for a little over a month and love it and am having a great time blinging it out. It's not going anywhere.
Quoted from frankmac:
If that's how you do it great! @CaptainNeo
For the guys that like to jump right in on MODS more power to them!!!?
At least the mods I make do something and it's fun thinking of a way to make something actually work.Llike my leg light-ups or making my frosted clear repro Batman Forever shooter gun light up or getting the Bat plane to light up of making the Mustang Gears plastic light up. At least I'm not gluing action figures all over the pf that just sit there and do nothing. Pinball has something for everyone.
Quoted from 30FathomDave:
To each their own, I suppose... but personally, I like having fun and modding my games BEFORE I get bored with them. I don't see why it's a big deal if someone is excited about their new game and wants to dig in with mods (many of which won't be available forever) WHILE they're immersing themself in what the game has to offer.
*posted while both walking AND chewing gum*
Yeah I don't get it either Dave.
"Step on a crack break your mothers back" so be careful walking AND chewing gum.
Can someone look behind the pf back board and see if they have 89 sockets behind the Ghost Trap plastic? That's what I have and they really don't light up at all.
Quoted from frankmac:
I don't think anyone out there would put mods before there games! I believe most are so proud and are haveing such a great time and experience with the games that the MODS become a personal expression!
I think MODS a great! What ever MOD makes each owner happy! That's all that matters
Quoted from Fortytwo:
Hello. Just a quick note. The socket does not determine the voltage. There is no standard etc. look at the lower playfeild lights on black hole. So yes a socket that will fit a 89 can take multiple voltages. Just depends on the bulb required.
Ba15s base bulb.
Yes I know that but my sockets have 89 bulbs in them so with only 5v going in they really don't light up. I have a wall wort power supply that's switchable, 3, 4.5, 6, 7.5, 9 and 12v, I tested the bulbs that were in the sockets and they are 12v but when powered to 4.5v, which is only half a volt short of 5v only 2 of the 8 smd in the bulb faintly lit and 6v isn't much better. So yes I have 89 sockets but only 5v is being supplied to them which will not light a 12v 89 bulb. I am not aware of a 89 socketed bulb the runs on 5v so please let me know where I can buy some. Why would stern do that to my game. I've seen vids of other Pros and all show bright flashing Ghost Trap flashers. I contacted my distributor and they are talking to Stern.
Got my Candy Raspberry coated armor today and the color looks great on the game. But I need to find another coater cuz one part of a leg didn't turn out well and the coater said "there's nothing I can do about it, it's a flaw in the metal or something, I can redo it but I can't guarantee it will turn out better, there's no money in this kind of job for me so I don't want any more of your business". So I payed them their $300 for my parts and got the fuck out. Any one local DO NOT go to Twin City Powder Coating.
Quoted from chuckwurt:
From the research I've done, no LED companies carry them. Stern is the only place using them. Comet is working on them, but not sure what the other companies are doing since I haven't asked them. Sounds like stern accidentally used a 12v bulb and you just need them to send you some 5v ones. Assuming I understand your situation correctly.
I know a few things about bulbs and I've never heard of a 5v bulb using a 89 socket...I've never even heard of a 5v "bulb" period, a 5v pcb board like Stern is using in their Spike games but that's it. Going to be interesting to hear what Cointaker finds out about this.
Quoted from Tazmancat:
Wow! Gorgeous color and great price for that job. I assume you will be putting this on the GB Premium? You picked a great color for the art package. Would love to find someone local to Atlanta who could do that for me for a decent price.
Actually it's on a Pro, the color matches parts of the sky on Stern's art blades.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:
Wow, $300 and you had to supply the metal as well? They should be happy with your business because they are charging enough. contact paul at virtruapin.net. He offers powdercoating with the hardware included for a much more reasonable price.
They charged me $100 for blasting and $200 for coating. It really pissed me off cuz I've done business with them on 4 jobs and never a problem until now. I'll take my business elsewhere no problem. I like to keep it local cuz I can see any problems when I pick up.
Quoted from ramegoom:
You can buy a kit and do your own powder coating:
Go to craigslist and buy an old used oven - they're cheap - then rig it up in your garage and use it to cure the powder. There are a ton of different finishes and colors available.
Something to ponder anyway. Once you perfect it, there's no limit to what you can do. Actually there is; the size of the oven dictates the largest part you can cure.
I know people who had it and it's a messy business unless you have the proper spray booth and proper oven. I'll stick with the pros who do it for a living.
I just got off the phone with Melissa and she's sending me out the correct bulbs. I just wonder how Stern put the wrong bulbs in my game.
Quoted from jtaudio:
That's a great color choice! What is the color/brand? I'd like to check into having that done locally.
Not sure what brand they used but it's a 2 coat process, Almost Chrome base with the Candy Raspberry tint top coat. I almost went with a sparkle silver base, it was a close call between the 2 but Almost Chrome won. This is what the sparkle silver looks like under a green, it's what I think Stern should have gone with on the GB LE. My BF wireforms are done with this and they looks awesome.
Quoted from imharrow:
I was a bit disappointed with spike and removing the head (which I need to do to get into my basement). I usually find it easier to remove the hinges at the head. With spike you can't because the power supply.
I don't understand this. I just took off the hinges on my Pro and to do that all I had to do is remove 2 nuts that hold the service box cover to get at the 2 nuts holding the hinge on that side. The 2 nuts on the other side were off in about 30 seconds. The 1 bolt that holds the hinge to the cab on each side took me about 20 seconds each to take off. I didn't have to remove the head so I don't know how difficult that would be.
Yes they are different, my GB Pro is 6ft for each side so I had to buy 15ft of the clear that I put the rgb led strip into.
The only plaque where numbers really mean anything are the ones on the Refineries games.
Looks like a good reason to go with a black painted exposed ceiling and if your games are lined up in line with your floor joists above you'd have what another 8-10 inches more to play with. I have 12 of my 14 games like that and it really makes a difference.
Quoted from Meph:
Just got notification that my GB Pro from Cointaker left Sunbury, PA tonight at 4:30pm. Hopefully I can pick it up in Syracuse tomorrow morning. A fellow collector in Buffalo had his GB Pro arrived today from a different distributor, so Pro machines are shipping again at the same time as the LEs.
Just shows ya that Stern can crank out the games when they want to.
Quoted from kermit24:
Thought I would share this simple adjustment that has reduced the airballs off the 2X playfield values target. I replaced the stock foam behind the target with a thicker one. Easy asjustment. This is in an LE, not sure if it is necessary on a Pro.
How do they register now?
Got the left side custom printed cutout for my LE apron that's on my Pro cut out. Gonna do the right side tomorrow and make 2 clear plastic windows to go over them, then I just have to wait for my 5v flashers and sockets to arrive and wire them up to the Ghost Trap flashers on the pf back board. Gonna look really cool.
Hi guys, I just finished the inserts on the LE apron I have on my Pro. Now just waiting for my 5v flashers from CT to light them up, they will be tied into the Ghost Trap on the pf back board. They turned out pretty good if ya ask me. The last picture is back lit by the sun. Now I just need some kick ass cards, but I really don't want instruction cards just cards with great pictures.
Quoted from kermit24:
2. Increase the pitch of the playfield. I started at exactly 6.5 degrees. I feel the airballs reduced and it played better overall at a bit steeper pitch. It was curious because the bubble that is on the side rail is true much closer to 7 degrees. So I made it a bit more steep.
I have mine at 7.1 and that cut down the air balls.
Quoted from jar155:
Here's a before and after with Stern's plastic sling protectors. I went with the green ones. I'm not sure how much I like them, but they do diffuse the sling lights and cause the area in the slings to glow green. Kind of a neat effect there. I also put on some Perfect Play silicon bands, but I'm not sure if I like the extra grip. I thought they were supposed to be pretty close to regular rubber. I might go back to standard rubber.
I don't care for the way they mess with the purple color of the original plastics and I wish the ghosts lit up fully, they only half light up. I may have to do something about that.
I just wired up the flashers under the evil Slimer LE apron cutouts. They are hooked up to the Ghost Trap flashers on the pf back board. They work perfect and light up just right. Now I need some custom pictures to replace the rules cards.
Quoted from chuckwurt:
Yes sir. That and I don't feel like moving 20 games to a new house haha. I'm picking up a nice odds and evens from my uncle later this summer and that will be it.
Pretty excited to hopefully find a badass basement to make a proper game room.
How big a game room ya lookin for?
Quoted from Silver:
Finally, LE number 176 arrived today. So far, very impressed. Seems a great, fun game.
Great, now do us a favor and turn the shaker off and leave it off for a month and see if insert ghosting happens. We have been talking that that may be one of the causes. Thanks.
Quoted from Meph:
Looks like I may be leaving the club as fast as I joined it. I sold my STTNG to buy a GB Pro because my wife and kids never played it. They all loved the theme and were excited for GB. The wife told me last night that she absolutely hates the game because of the flipper gap, how much the ball jumps all over, and a the way the modes work. While I love the game myself, her concerns are valid and some of those issues aren't going to change.
Bummer but you have to listen to others who play it.
Quoted from sdup4fun:
So exactly one week into owning my LE and it has been playing fine. Tonight I go to turn it on and all that happens is the display says Stern Pinball and nothing happens. There are a couple of red lights on inside the cabinet when I open the coin door but beyond that zippo. Anyone have thoughts on how to troubleshoot this or should I just get the local dealer to come out and repair it for me under warranty? Any help would be appreciated.
Call the local dealer, when he comes out have him explain what's wrong. It's under warranty.
Quoted from kidchrisso:
That center post is for pu__ys! Shake that $h!t n grind it out!
Why don't u just set it to 5 balls....cause it cheating?
Tell that to all the people who are putting in $1 a game. I've seen people put a dollar in, the game lasts 30 seconds and they say F that shit and walk away.
Quoted from scarybeard:
WOOT! just got my Ghostbusters PRO delivered yesterday!
just to chime in on the tally of defects and imperfections people have been reporting:
My playfield has no insert issues at all. The Slimer registers his hits just fine right out of the box. All the other switches, lights etc work as intended. In short, the game was in perfect working order.
I will say that the Airballs are a major problem. Those two ramp targets might as well be launch pads. I'm ordering that guard imediately!
Highscore my first day was 290 million. looking forward to some of the higher modes once I get more practice in.
Oh, one question. When I launch the ball the diverter on the ramp above the shooter lane 'shifts' a bit. Like its being slightly activated, then it relaxes once the ball passes it. Is this normal behavior anyone else has noticed?
The ball came down the pf really fast so I smacked it with the left flipper and it went screaming up here,
only to hop the plastic and come to rest here.
It all happened in the blink of an eye. Damn this game can be fast.
Quoted from Fortytwo:
I'm waiting for my game. I built a custom topper but want to mount it to the wall because of weight etc. my game is coming soon but I want to get this done before.
Can someone measure the tallest point in their game and also how much adjustment on the legs left to go up?
With the back legs set for a 7.1 pitch the back of the bb is 75 3/4 inches tall.
Quoted from jar155:
The update is buggy. Stuff I've seen so far:
- Certain awards collected by pops not being awarded
- Some skill shot awards not being awarded (video mode and Tobin's) if a mode is lit despite the DMD saying it will be
- Ball saver light comes on at random/wrong times
- E rollover light in P-K-E flickers throughout the game randomly
- Right orbit isn't always progressing mode on a made shot, but it's registering the shot (switch is fine)
- Apparently it crashes in video modes (I haven't seen it firsthand)
- Wrong insert colors on The Ballroom
- Timing is sometimes off on kickout sounds from scoops
Testing on this had to have been minimal.
It's a good thing that I NEVER install an update when it first comes out, I wait till I read that it's working good.
Can anyone tell me if the volume of the bb speakers can be turned up seperatly from the cab speaker?
Quoted from Enaud:
Thanks for the video link Trekkie. I checked out my LE#470. It does not have that white plastic there. The leads on the flasher do have a piece of tape covering them up. Do you all think that is sufficient protection?
Edit: I thought about it a few more minutes and decided it would be safest to go ahead and install a piece of double sided tape there, as Todd did in the video. Better safe than sorry!
Yup I just did that to my Pro, nothing was covering it. better safe then sorry. Thanks much Trekkie for the link.
Quoted from Medisinyl:
A bit premature as we just tore up the carpets for wood (messy), but I thought some may get a kick out of the Vigo wall I'm making for GB (WIP). He's behind the faux brick and the framing adds to the appearance of depth. I assume most would think this is a crazy thing to do in their house :p (perhaps not on this forum ). Interestingly enough, I initially got the Vigo print years before a GB pin was announced (thought I'd have it in a theater room, but never installed it). Never thought it would end up near a pin (I wasn't even into the hobby at the time :p ). Yet, it's a welcome turn of events
That's cool, now if you could make his eyes glow and pulse.
Quoted from AtTheArcade:
No UV carpet. We just moved into a new house earlier this year and so my game room is temporarily in an unused bedroom upstairs. I'm going to convert out three car garage into my new game room and home office in the next couple of months. I don't think I'm going to go with UV carpet though. I had carpet squares in my old game room and I'll probably go that route again or commercial grade carpet.
Quoted from thall17:
Have had mine now for a little for a week. Have played approx 125 games and boy is it a BRUTAL game!! But when you get the playfield going and can manage a shot or two the adrenaline rush is unbeatable. Truly a 1 more game!!
Need to hammer up the rails, how much "force" is needed? I tapped on them a little and didn't seem to budge...
Airballs are still pretty common even with Art's protector installed
Right ramp is a little finicky...has to be an almost perfect shot though I did backhand one...
Lights, sound, gameplay, theme, art...just awesome!!
Making my MOD wish list for the wife for Christmas lol
Pro...Premium? Don't forget my mod (next to my avatar) for your list.
Quoted from pinnaf:
just got a premium... love it.. for anyone to rag on stern about "stuff" well, I say "whatever" to that. this is fast and fun , loud and proud, a LOT going on. I played it at York this fall and was "sold" on it!
I am just having fun with it now.. put a few mods on day 1.. like air ball protector and colored sling shot protectors and a couple other things.
will dabble with a few more cute ones like the lighted holes, the ghost add on the left scoop, bookstack and such
But was wondering in this group who as found the best for the price UNDER CABINET green lighting (interactive? or just steady.. plus would like to split mod that to light up a ECTO car I got for my own personal topper.
any leads on the best one "for the money" that is. THANKS in advance
this game is a RIP!!!(by that I mean rip roaring fun fest)
Nice mods going on there. My Leg Light-Ups look great on all 3 GB's, I have red on mine with Beatmasters red shooter light up. It's not a boring unlit front of the cab anymore.