Dude Arts protectors work great so stfu already. You're not going to make to many friends here being a new member and coming on here and publicly trashing one of the nicest and most well respected people on this forum. Art did a HUGE favor to all GB owners by making the protectors for this game. You should be ashamed of yourself for real.

It worked fine for me! Has protected my game for awhile now! Thanks for your work on it.

Art's protector works on my premium too

thnx goes out to imagamejunky for helping me install my art blades. For those that do this, do yourself a favor and just take out the PF, it was ridiculously easy.

No worries guys....Thanks!

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OR sit on the couch and eat opiates!

Glad to hear it Art! We like having you around!

Thank you.
I must share this with the wife.....I think she wants me and the pins to go!
I'll move in with boob.

Just b/c I signed up 4 months ago doesn't mean I haven't read and viewed and browsed the forums/website for along while, mostly b/c your users like yourself, I could have been nicer I guess, I didn't cuss, I didn't threaten anyone.

See for yourself, it may b/c Stern made changes to the playfield so yeah the current design does not work as intended even modified with and with washers you can clearly see the ball will hit going up the ramp slowing the ball, I worked with Art, nice guy, but the product falls short for me. pictures attached, proof.... happy?

Guessing here, but maybe the 2017+ GB builds, this protector may or may not work. I think there is room for improvement regardless.

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I have the pro library mod for sale in the market.

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YES.

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Washers or standoffs would solve that...or this adjustment...sometimes this works...

Very happy if someone makes a "better" one.
Way past that now, for me.

BTW, I heard from a fellow pinsider looking for one of mine, and I believe Joe at Pingraffix has.
Curly has 2 types, Swinks has Angles, Public opinion adds foam, and as you suggest and more, I think there are 3-4 others, all "better"

So one has 6-8 choices on how to solve, and for a few..they have had to hand make.

So "better" is good, I just no longer wanted to guess what 2-4mm assembly variation a person had, or the drama.... as some are solved with slimer adjustments, or a better coverage.

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Art, we already tried this, I appreciated the help then and even now. I even went back again for a 3rd try, I dont have pics of the final modifying of the protector. I even have "shims" from another pinsider on here, it doesn't stop the airballs on the 2x standup target. So I am just giving my 2 cents it's not working for me, so off to try another design.

In general, I know we can never stop all air balls, but I grow tired of my 2x standup sending the ball hurling towards my helix ramp's crossover rail and bashing my playfield, off topic here = but I also get serious air balls on the ghost target that sends the ball towards the firehouse and library, also smashing/landing on my left captive ball plastic cover.

I will note, the 3x used send airballs, your design has stopped airballs on the 3x target, so I know we just need more lip over the 2x and less over the ramp entrance. I am also guessing here but other vendors don't want to use your design or modify it out of respect for you and copyrights, I am game for working towards a better design off your existing design, I mean you even have a diagram/PDF showing how to adjust/modify it, so it's a known work around.

Are you performing surgery on your pin?

I believe we spoke about 45 minutes by phone?

Of course, as always I truly hate when something fails, and always offer a refund.
I think the contention was it failed for you, but may not have failed for others...Im sure it did fail for some....

Im certain there is room for improvement, and I cant say whether your game represents all current production, or is an exception.

I know there are ways to 100% get better coverage, but with some designs from early runs, Slimer would hit...its simply, by the shear amount of products available, and revisions, that there isnt a single, always best solution, but indeed the one you recommend may be it.

I think the issue was your post presented itself as a promotion at the sake of degrading another product,
and I would hope we all strive to promote a product and its positives with respect to others...at least if its a guy who shows up and is here as a fellow hobbyist.

(We seem to be OK beating up on the Majors...?)

No worries here, I know you were trying to help.....moving on.....

GB is probably not a game you want as your only game.

Rob

You can also remove the targets from under the playfield and add a slight 5 degree bend in the bracket so the target leans forward a bit. This will help reduce airballs alot. Or just shim the target so it mounts with that forward 5 degree angle.

Rob

What would you say are the top 5 complimentary pins? I really like my GB but would like to add something beside it to offset the brutal games. I was thinking met maybe. SW doesn't do much for me after trying it.

Yup, if it doesn't work on your machine it doesn't work. That's to bad.

something that has notoriously long plays. Like Twilight Zone.

I have a Williams Space station next to mine. However, even though Ghostbusters is Brutal, people go to it 95% of the time over the 'old' pin....

...kids these days...

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Well maybe if you would have said that Arts protectors don't work on newer games it would have been different, but you just said "skip Arts and use a better design." My apologies for being nasty with you but Art is a great guy and it pissed me off.

Not being rude but I gotta ask.....why are you wearing latec gloves?

I understand, I chose Arts protector due to the pinside community feedback, guess I got a screwy game.

so I don't get fingerprints on my glass and playfield plastics, I do wipe my glass and field down but one less thing to worry about.

Thank you and the post above. I have wanted to do something but didn't know and had the new springs. Still they won't drop. I'll try this!

The art blades are awesome and I took my pf out as well. Less headache.

Art, your design offers ultimate protection and keeps working over and over again!
Ever consider a second career in the latex condom business?

Heres my Promo shot:

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Do you happen to have a link to the kit? I don't see it anywhere

Sounds like he's talking about the same kit from Stern.
http://costore.com/sternpinball/productenlarged.asp?peid=235&pid=6146368

You're welcome bud. Glad to help.

If anyone is interested, the key is using blue painters tape to hold it in place, then peel half of the backing off, and apply half the sticker at a time. Easy and precise. AND No need to spray any liquids!

Junky

That's way too subjective because everyone has different likes. You can't go wrong with MeT though since it's got solid code and layout. The music just doesn't do anything for me.

Rob

Arts air ball protector has been working great on my GB.(Thanks Art and good luck on your medical problems) Even my Scoleri brothers worked right out of the box. My only GB and AS problems have been the cabinet which I fixed. I played a non-airball GB before I bought mine so I can say some kind of protector is needed. I added a pinball life lower playfield kit as well.

So far I've had zero service calls this summer from my Stern games (AS and GB). Also I've had zero problems with WOZ though I averaged 2 calls per summer on WOZ the last 2 years in addition to the multiple problems I had during my ownership months of October through April. I guess it goes to show that JJP can make a reliable game once it's dialed in.

Hey folks- copied design from pinside guy who came up with new variation. Additionally, I have one that came with my machine (not sure if it was Arts but looks like it). It is for sale.

I was getting ball stuck and some airballs, so I recreated someone else's design which works. See pictures below, note the areas in pink to see the 2 different designs.

I am sure every design can be tweaked to make it better. Also sounds like Art is good guy.

Lastly I have a few left of the new design for sale on pinside Mods page and will probably not make a 3rd run.

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Yup, Yours will work better, but a year ago, alt designs were soft "veto'd", when I made about 8 different protos.

The one you have for sale, with the engraving, is from Little Shop of Games.

There are a few subtle, but distinct differences.

Thanks Art. I was not sure where it came from.

I ordered same kit for my NIB Pro..came in yesterday..slimer couldn't register hit...I emailed Modfather..here was their reply..
Hi Kevin,
We actually just realized few days ago that the slimer mech on newer games has been modified, and the pro version air airball deflector has to be re-designed to allow clearance of the slimer. We are currently in the process of changing it, and should have a new revision tomorrow. I will mail you a new revised one next week. No need to send the other one back.
Regards,
Chuck

modfather stands behind their gear..nice to know

Finally got to play a GB Pro on location today. Can definitely say that this game is brutally hard but I enjoy a good challenge! Highest score of the night was over 300mil but when I got to mass hysteria, the game shut down and rebooted which was weird. Maybe it was a coding issue? Regardless I have no idea what I would've finished that game with. Highest official score of a finished game was over 238mil. Shot over 200mil three different games. Not too bad I don't think for my first time playing! A lot of air balls out of the storage facility and the scoleri bros though! And what's up with the really short in and outlane posts? Had a lot of balls jumping over into the outlane but thankfully there is a fix for that! Did anybody else ever have the game reboot during Mass Hysteria though? That was just strange!

Been having this same problem, although it's more than time to time.. it's every game. Ball gets stuck just like this. I've tried different pitches and levels, short of changing the rubber on the left of the pops to something more stiff or adjusting the sensitivity of the pop bumper. Has anyone done anything that has fixed this?

Finally got to play Ghostbusters Pro...I think I'm in love.

We have a winner

From what I can tell with my little time so far with the game, it's just as difficult as TWD (maybe some things are even a little more so), but it's more light hearted and fun...more color...and just all around neat things referencing the movies on the playfield. I really like that, as a huge fanatic of GB and GB2.

You shouldn't have a problem selling your twd best pin ever made imo

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Stay Puft is one of the coolest modes in a pinball game ever? I still haven't defeated him yet but I think the shots and the animation is way too cool!

I played a bunch of SW pro and man I love my Ghostbusters!

So I have a GB Premium with a march build date. Couple issues, the biggest one is the shot from the left to subway ramp hardly registers.

It happens only about 15 percent of the shots... seems to be the speed of the ball, fast ones will not register. Is there an optoswitch that needs adjusted? Doesn't seem to be mechanical.

There is a mechanical switch at the top of that ramp that may need some adjustment. It is right next to the 14 Street sign.

Yep this here ^^^

Also if your switch under the ecto goggles doesn't register on hard fast shots, there is a piece of Mylar between the ecto goggles and that switch that is causing the problem. Take that off and that switch will register 100 percent of the time.

Go through your whole machine. Make sure ALL of the rj45 ethernet connectors are seated firmly in their sockets.
Junky

My favorite mode is 'Ballroom' (followed by spook central) because it's one of the most balanced out of them all. I think Gozer is probably the worst scene (right now) because it's the most unbalanced as far as the way the shots are and the time you are given.
Stay Puft is the most unbalanced for scoring, way more points than any of the others. It is fun though!

Timers.... sometimes I hate them because it's sometimes it's used as a way to make a mode harder to complete. But when every mode is running off a timer it's a bit too much of that. That's what I like about SW is that it seems only 1 mission (?) has a timer. I don't always want to feel rushed when playing a game. ST also had a good mix of timed and non timed.

Rob

Well, so far, after beating stay puft and starting wcws a couple of times, this is officially my favorite machine I've owned so far.

I'm no code, scoring expert like some of the guys on the forum, but to me that's the way it should be for a game with linear code. The first mode scores low, the second a little higher, and so on. It's a reward for getting there and it's not easy getting to Stay Puft.

I picked up a premium two weeks ago and have mixed feelings on it so far. The pin itself is fun to play, but a ballbuster. I'm not a fan of the stop and go play with Tobins spirit guide, video modes (I hate video modes) and starting or ending a mode while locking a ball.

My boy can't get enough of the pin so it won't be leaving the house any time soon.

Yes! If you get to the later modes, the player should be rewarded with huge scores. This is not a bad thing.

Congrats! GB Pro is my only current one (TAF and Austin Powers in the past). Wanting a second one eventually....SW Pro or GOT Pro are my desired. Maybe LOTR, but I don't want to spend more than $5,000...thoughts?